Paint warranty nonsense

Paint warranty nonsense

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Miserablegit

Original Poster:

4,174 posts

117 months

Monday 21st October
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Car has gone in for second time to have corrosion on arches fixed.
This time it involved the front arches as well.
Took car to dealer. Dealer sent to paint shop removed ppf from nose and wings and now dealer tells me they won’t replace ppf without my receipt as proof the car had ppf on…..nobody is questioning whether it had ppf but apparently Alpine warranty won’t replace it without receipts….Sod’s Law I can’t find my receipts as it was a few years ago and I’m waiting for detailed to send me copies.
Car is currently still at dealer as I said I’m unwilling to drive it without ppf.



James Elmer

263 posts

223 months

Monday 21st October
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Oh gawd. I feel your pain.
On their first attempt at the paint repair due to oxidisation, the appointed body shop painted -over- the OEM PPF (the two sections, upper and lower) in front of each rear wheel arch). At the second attempt they removed the OEM PPF and put new OEM PPF on. At the third attempt they have either masked and damaged the OEM PPF or have removed and put on new but have damaged it putting it on.

James Elmer

263 posts

223 months

Monday 21st October
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And to add, the dealer never tells me there’s an issue when they get it back, they just call me and say it’s done, and “come and collect”, so I drive approx 90 mins only to arrive and find issues. There seems to be no QA by dealers on the warranty oxidisation bodywork repairs.

Miserablegit

Original Poster:

4,174 posts

117 months

Monday 21st October
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It’s just not good enough. The dealer only wanted me there Friday as they wanted the Alpine courtesy car back.

worldwidewebs

2,557 posts

258 months

Monday 21st October
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Miserablegit said:
It’s just not good enough. The dealer only wanted me there Friday as they wanted the Alpine courtesy car back.
What car did they give you? Mine goes in next month

kitcat7

135 posts

253 months

Monday 21st October
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More to the point, how about naming these dealers, we will then know who to avoid. Mine's going in next month for all 4 wheel arches, but no PPF fitted.....yet.

Miserablegit

Original Poster:

4,174 posts

117 months

Monday 21st October
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worldwidewebs said:
What car did they give you? Mine goes in next month
An alpine GT but I’m now in a Renault something or other.

BCA

8,651 posts

265 months

Monday 21st October
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You’re doing better than me, I was told there was no courtesy car available and am now having a few issues with transportation without my car. Irritating.

Martyn P

167 posts

84 months

Monday 21st October
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Hmmm ... seems to be a pattern emerging.

Had to have all 4 corners repaired recently.
No one from Alpine checked the bodyshop repair before I collected it, so there were several minor issues (see other thread elsewhere).
This lack of 'sign-off' is a real problem as it reflects very badly on the Alpine brand.

Regarding the PPF, they removed the top half of the original pieces and replaced with new but in the wrong position!
When I complained, rather than rectify the issue, they posted me some replacements and told me to sort it out! Not the kind of customer service I expected.

Moderator edit: no naming & shaming

biggles330d

1,668 posts

158 months

Monday 21st October
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It's a shame reading some of this stuff. The Alpine product is fabulous, let down by the Renault approach to customer care. And such basic, basic stuff too. The sooner a handful of experts and specialists appear the better as cars drift out of warrantee.

Trevor555

4,510 posts

92 months

Monday 21st October
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Has anyone had it explained to them as to why these arches are corroding?

Arch liner rubbing?

Water sitting somewhere?

worldwidewebs

2,557 posts

258 months

Monday 21st October
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Trevor555 said:
Has anyone had it explained to them as to why these arches are corroding?

Arch liner rubbing?

Water sitting somewhere?
Pretty obvious to me. Galvanic corrosion caused by the metal spire clips that are used to attach the arches and the bumpers/sills. They are now (or should be) replaced by a plastic item

Miserablegit

Original Poster:

4,174 posts

117 months

Monday 21st October
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I might be completely wrong but I understand it’s because they use steel mounts against alloy panels so it’s galvanic corrosion. The fix is to use plastic mounts.

James Elmer

263 posts

223 months

Monday 21st October
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Miserablegit said:
It’s just not good enough. The dealer only wanted me there Friday as they wanted the Alpine courtesy car back.
Exactly, EXACTLY, the same as for me - no QA done, called and said done, just to get the loan car back - first loan car a Captur, second time a new A110 GT, third time a Clio hybrid auto.

James Elmer

263 posts

223 months

Monday 21st October
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Martyn P said:
Hmmm ... seems to be a pattern emerging.

Had to have all 4 corners repaired recently.
No one from Alpine checked the bodyshop repair before I collected it, so there were several minor issues (see other thread elsewhere).
This lack of 'sign-off' is a real problem as it reflects very badly on the Alpine brand.

Regarding the PPF, they removed the top half of the original pieces and replaced with new but in the wrong position!
When I complained, rather than rectify the issue, they posted me some replacements and told me to sort it out! Not the kind of customer service I expected.
I agree. No QA. And worse still, for the latest, THIRD, attempt, there was supposed to be an ‘Alpine paint specialist’ present, but the work is still very poor!

Trevor555

4,510 posts

92 months

Monday 21st October
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worldwidewebs said:
Trevor555 said:
Has anyone had it explained to them as to why these arches are corroding?

Arch liner rubbing?

Water sitting somewhere?
Pretty obvious to me. Galvanic corrosion caused by the metal spire clips that are used to attach the arches and the bumpers/sills. They are now (or should be) replaced by a plastic item
Thank you..




BCA

8,651 posts

265 months

Monday 21st October
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I disagree, as my corrosion was not in the typical bumper joining sections. The body shop believed it to be crud sitting in the inner arches (although mine is kept clean in this regard) and insufficient paint/prep.

worldwidewebs

2,557 posts

258 months

Monday 21st October
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BCA said:
I disagree, as my corrosion was not in the typical bumper joining sections. The body shop believed it to be crud sitting in the inner arches (although mine is kept clean in this regard) and insufficient paint/prep.
Alpine must have replaced the metal clips with plastic for a laugh then.

There may be additional issues, but the main problem is definitely galvanic corrosion

James Elmer

263 posts

223 months

Monday 21st October
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I don’t know when they changed the clips from metal to plastic, but the plastic ones are available from parts depts and I’ve got 4 ready to go on once the work is done to an acceptable standard.

Martyn P

167 posts

84 months

Monday 21st October
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Miserablegit said:
I might be completely wrong but I understand it’s because they use steel mounts against alloy panels so it’s galvanic corrosion. The fix is to use plastic mounts.
I hate to say you are wrong but …
In my case some of the corrosion was no where near the joints. So although that can be a cause of problems, not in all cases. The body shop put it down to stone chips allowing water under the paint.
Plastic mounts used in the repair so hopefully that rules out future problems?
At least the rust warranty covers another 8 years!