How to Sell an Alpine

How to Sell an Alpine

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burty39

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358 posts

208 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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Anyone have any experience of selling their car?

All usual avenues explored including main dealer. It's not that they won't offer the right price, dealers just don't want them

WBAC is ridiculously low - £10-12k under dealer prices

I am advertised privately under cutting dealers by £3-4k and still nothing

Any suggestions?

mcmigo

145 posts

160 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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I am sadly moving on mine after 3.5 years of ownership. The car has been incredible and I have had no issues with it whatsoever ( it is a 20 plate legende). My kids are now teenagers and it was becoming a nightmare having a second car with only two seats given the demands of ferrying gangs of kids around.

I have sold mine back to the main dealer for a good price and the deal I did was cash plus the only 4 seater ‘ alpine ‘ currently for sale- the new Renault Clio ‘ esprit alpine ‘! I will keep the Clio until alpine bring out its larger electric stuff in a few years.

I guess I am posting this as a dealer might have more appetite if you look at the sort of deal above.


W111AAM

657 posts

239 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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I'm in the same boat, with my Legend GT up for sale.

I fear the values of A110 is going to drop a fair bit soon I've had no interest at all either (granted I might be asking a little high). Frustratingly I spoke my local Alpine dealer in July and was offered £48k for it but I wanted to use it to go to Le Mans Classic. When I called after I was back they couldn't buy it as they had too much stock. Another dealer offered me £43k. While Alpine are selling better, I fear a lot of cars that are now 3/4 years old are coming back into the dealer network. And with the 'cost of living crisis' guess potential buyers out there are fewer and fewer??

burty39

Original Poster:

358 posts

208 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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I enquired in June and was told Alpine had too much stock, same story again this week

Mine is less than 2 years old, 2,500 miles, you would think prime stock for them but clearly not

7en

281 posts

18 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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How much are you asking for? MY, spec etc?

I think most people looking to buy used are biding their time for <£40k cars, which seem to go quite quickly when they approach that.

You also get used car warranties with dealer cars, which is worth a decent chunk of change.

Edited by 7en on Friday 20th October 20:40

Caddyshack

11,832 posts

213 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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Selling a car to a dealer is always bad news if you are not trading up. If you just want money then get ready for a kick in the nuts.

The private sale is very hard as often people want finance on higher value cars so they need a dealer and to get a trade in.

dontdobends

485 posts

221 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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burty39 said:
Anyone have any experience of selling their car?

All usual avenues explored including main dealer. It's not that they won't offer the right price, dealers just don't want them

WBAC is ridiculously low - £10-12k under dealer prices

I am advertised privately under cutting dealers by £3-4k and still nothing

Any suggestions?
Hi Burty,

Have you a link? I might know someone who could be interested.

burty39

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358 posts

208 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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Mine is on here & C&C, it's the Tulipe Noire one.

Julian Thompson

2,593 posts

245 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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It’s also a super niche car so you’ve got a very small market.

I looked at a few used ones for sale before I bought my new one a few weeks ago but honestly the price gap wasn’t wide enough to warrant not being the first owner.

Mainly the pricing issue seemed to be that the sellers wanted to depreciate the options at the same percentage as the car, and, that they were selling their cars based on list price now whereas in reality their cars were bought for less, and are older models without the benefit of the latest changes.

I’d agree with the above - I’d not buy a car that was basically £50k new as a used one for any more than £40k.

burty39

Original Poster:

358 posts

208 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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Yes I get that, mine was £66k in Jan 2022 and I am asking under £50k

Julian Thompson

2,593 posts

245 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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Argh yes. Except that’s where the word “basically” might be the problem. The A110 is a £50k car but they want almost 10% more for the lovely paint colour and then ask crazy prices for trinkets like storage boxes, folding mirrors and telematics whilst making you pay significantly for things many owners would like such as sports exhaust and parking sensors. So I think you’ve got to rationalise that you spent much of that options money and depreciate it accordingly. Obviously the S model is more again and again manages to conjure up a bigger price out of not really that much more car.

I spoke to a pal of mine in the trade and he says because CAP guide doesn’t offer any adjustment for options whatsoever the “book” price on an optioned car is identical to a bog standard one, and it’s up to the dealer to make that adjustment as the nicer spec car will be “more attractive” to buyers. In this market it’s likely they’re just looking at “book” for the values and expecting to get your spec thrown largely into the bargain.

It’s also a rubbish time of year to be selling a sports car.

In the end there is a buyer at the right price but because of what the car is it will require patience I think. Best of luck with it.

burty39

Original Poster:

358 posts

208 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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Cheers, had a better offer today on a px ( still a bit below my bottom price ) and it's in a 1 day dealer auction so see how it goes

Julian Thompson

2,593 posts

245 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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Just had a look at your car - super annoying as I’d have had that if I’d seen it two weeks ago but I wasn’t really looking on PH - I was on Autotrader because it had a better selection of them.

It’s a really, really lovely thing that with the right miles too - I would be very tempted to “hold your ground” on the price, get it on an “until it sells” on AT, cover it up in the garage and sit on your hands. The motor trade can sniff what they perceive as desperation a mile off so make sure you don’t give a hint of it!

burty39

Original Poster:

358 posts

208 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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Thanks for the advice, if it doesn't sell today I'll put it on AT

W111AAM

657 posts

239 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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burty39

Original Poster:

358 posts

208 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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W111AAM said:
Yeh saw that last night, unfortunately I think that speaks volumes

Julian Thompson

2,593 posts

245 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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But that’s a five year old car that was probably £50k new being force sold into what is basically the U.K. trade’s favourite source for stock! It’s a two owner car with an ok mileage and the old sat nav. So it’s lost about 35% of its value in five years of which a tonne was VAT and first reg tax. I don’t think it’s too bad.

Caddyshack

11,832 posts

213 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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Julian Thompson said:
But that’s a five year old car that was probably £50k new being force sold into what is basically the U.K. trade’s favourite source for stock! It’s a two owner car with an ok mileage and the old sat nav. So it’s lost about 35% of its value in five years of which a tonne was VAT and first reg tax. I don’t think it’s too bad.
Careful mentioning VAT in a depreciation from new comment, you will get torn apart by the gods of PH…I did.

Julian Thompson

2,593 posts

245 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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Caddyshack said:
Julian Thompson said:
But that’s a five year old car that was probably £50k new being force sold into what is basically the U.K. trade’s favourite source for stock! It’s a two owner car with an ok mileage and the old sat nav. So it’s lost about 35% of its value in five years of which a tonne was VAT and first reg tax. I don’t think it’s too bad.
Careful mentioning VAT in a depreciation from new comment, you will get torn apart by the gods of PH…I did.
I can see their argument and can only counter by saying that the first private end user pays the tax and then the tax depreciates probably faster than even the options hehe

burty39

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358 posts

208 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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No joy yesterday so now on AT