Alternator & Fuel pump failures

Alternator & Fuel pump failures

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Miserablegit

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4,172 posts

116 months

Tuesday 1st November 2022
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I thought I’d start a thread to detail the failures in case it is useful to people getting it fixed -

Miserablegit 2018 PE alternator September 2022

xondat

235 posts

57 months

Tuesday 1st November 2022
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Just ran through posts since August this year.

Alternator:
  • miserablegit
  • gaucimiura
  • LGC-Adams
  • bcr5784
  • GVO - mention of battery
  • Simon Owen - mention of battery
  • breakfan - reported low battery
  • neil-g8km6 - reported low battery
  • worldwidewebs - symptoms similar to fuel pump, alternator replaced
  • jayjay60 - poor earth ground, no mention of what the fix was
  • Esders - Electric Failure Hazard (I am assuming this is alternator related)
Fuel pump:
  • martyn p
  • khart
  • hilts uk - injectors
  • xondat - injectors, low battery. Fuel pump replaced.
  • lukeharding - injectors, reported low battery. Fuel pump replaced.
  • Alpine Legende GT - fuel pump
  • plus at least 3 from the Renault Alpine Owners Club on Facebook.
I'm happy to keep this updated, just let me know.

Edited by xondat on Tuesday 1st November 12:35


Edited by xondat on Wednesday 2nd November 00:07

Miserablegit

Original Poster:

4,172 posts

116 months

Tuesday 1st November 2022
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Many thanks- I’m happy for you to do that.

neil-g8km6

198 posts

30 months

Tuesday 1st November 2022
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Great idea! Alpine Solihull confirmed mine is a duff alternator.

worldwidewebs

2,538 posts

257 months

Tuesday 1st November 2022
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Worth checking the FB groups as there are a few on there. One lady broke down in lane 3 of the M42 with failed fuel pump last Thursday

PaulJC84

978 posts

224 months

Tuesday 1st November 2022
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worldwidewebs said:
Worth checking the FB groups as there are a few on there. One lady broke down in lane 3 of the M42 with failed fuel pump last Thursday
I saw the video of that one. Looked pretty scary.

xondat

235 posts

57 months

Tuesday 1st November 2022
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Totally unacceptable. I'm really upset someone get stuck on the motorway.

I don't use Facebook, so won't be able to keep track, but 2 others in the comments of this video reporting fuel pump issues too.

biggles330d

1,660 posts

157 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2022
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To put a vaguely positive counterpoint to this, could we add a list of those who have suffered neither issue????
Maybe add a model / year just to see if there is any particular trend?


Mine's been fine. Sept/Oct 2021 Pure.

alfietom

11 posts

90 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2022
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Oct 2021 Legende GT - No issues so far although mileage is only 1,500 miles

LGC-Adams

127 posts

51 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2022
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As I'm listed above I would add the comment that creating an echo chamber on the Forum is not going to be very illuminating, or give a reliable view of the situation.
These ARE very annoying faults, but lets balance with the positive! I'm keeping my Alpine, and would recommend anyone to try one - its a gem.

xondat

235 posts

57 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2022
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From what I can tell there's 730 UK registered cars. I don't really see the point in 98% of people posting about their non-issues in this thread? Maybe better to make a new one.

When I have more time this week, I'm going to try and gather model/year/mileage from those with issues to see if there is a pattern thumbup

Not trying to be negative, but just find out roughly how many & what cars are affected. If a pattern is there, it'd be helpful to pass that info on.

Miserablegit

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4,172 posts

116 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2022
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Yes- that’s the idea of the thread- to log the issues to see if there is any pattern without having to trawl through the threads. Really pleased people are not having problems but please have the good grace to not spoil a thread intended to support those who are/have had issues.


essexstu

519 posts

125 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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certainly a thread of interest and I know for a fact that people at Alpine DO read posts on this forum. I was told that Alpine of course monitor any failures and when it become evident there is a common fault then parts are replaced under recall which is what has happened with some of the fuel pumps. Mine was replaced under recall at its first service (PE 2021 but made in 2020)

The alternator issue will no doubt be the same if enough go wrong but the around 1% fail rate seems to be growing to 2% at the moment given the 730 registered (how many left) so still relatively rare? 996/997 had cylinder scoring issues in the 2000s with an estimated 10% suffering but Porsche certainly did no recall to fix the issue.

worldwidewebs

2,538 posts

257 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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essexstu said:
certainly a thread of interest and I know for a fact that people at Alpine DO read posts on this forum. I was told that Alpine of course monitor any failures and when it become evident there is a common fault then parts are replaced under recall which is what has happened with some of the fuel pumps. Mine was replaced under recall at its first service (PE 2021 but made in 2020)
The replacement fuel pump you have is still not right. Alpine have just released another part number - the fuel pump on my MY22 has just failed

Reggid85

27 posts

136 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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its totally irrational, but I'm not taking my A110 on a 2 hour long motorway trip today, because I fear breaking down. Unlikely I know, but I can't get that image out of my head, of one stuck in outer lane on motorway for 2 hours.



Edited by Reggid85 on Sunday 6th November 11:30

worldwidewebs

2,538 posts

257 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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Reggid85 said:
its totally irrational, but I'm not taking my A110 on a 2 hour long motorway trip today, because I fear breaking down. Unlikely I know, but I can't get that image out of my head, of one stuck in outer lane on motorway for 2 hours.
It's not irrational, but it is unlikely

Miserablegit

Original Poster:

4,172 posts

116 months

Monday 7th November 2022
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essexstu said:
certainly a thread of interest and I know for a fact that people at Alpine DO read posts on this forum. I was told that Alpine of course monitor any failures and when it become evident there is a common fault then parts are replaced under recall which is what has happened with some of the fuel pumps. Mine was replaced under recall at its first service (PE 2021 but made in 2020)

The alternator issue will no doubt be the same if enough go wrong but the around 1% fail rate seems to be growing to 2% at the moment given the 730 registered (how many left) so still relatively rare? 996/997 had cylinder scoring issues in the 2000s with an estimated 10% suffering but Porsche certainly did no recall to fix the issue.
Except…there are only about 50 Alpine owners using this forum so the failure rate is quite high looking at that small cross-section.

springfan62

854 posts

83 months

Monday 7th November 2022
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There are 600 members on the Facebook group and the issue hasn't arisen that often. So statistically its still a small number.
Also on the FAR forum there is no particular mention of it.

It's obviously an issue but I don't think I am going to let it worry me or change the way I use the car.


worldwidewebs

2,538 posts

257 months

Monday 7th November 2022
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springfan62 said:
There are 600 members on the Facebook group and the issue hasn't arisen that often. So statistically its still a small number.
Also on the FAR forum there is no particular mention of it.

It's obviously an issue but I don't think I am going to let it worry me or change the way I use the car.
You mean this 12 page thread on the FAR forum? https://forum.alpinerenault.com/viewtopic.php?f=99...

And there's a recall in Japan

springfan62

854 posts

83 months

Monday 7th November 2022
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Considering how many active owners there are on there I don't think the length of the thread is statistically relevant and the thread hasn't been updated for 2 months.

Owners of cars like this have a right to expect not to have issues like this but also tend to make more noise when things go wrong.

I am on a Tesla forum and the number of people moaning about poor quality yet my car is perfect and certainly on a par with Audi etc but if you read the forum you would think they are terrible.

I will be annoyed if my alternator or fuel pump fails but I accept it is a small risk. There is risk in every car you buy, it is very difficult to establish how many Porsche owners have bore scoring or RMS failure even though anecdotally it seems to be a major issue.