Redele special edition GT

Redele special edition GT

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Miserablegit

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4,170 posts

116 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Details in general gassing.

Similar roof detail to, I think, s111dpc’s alpine with the wrapped a pillars.


s111dpc

1,407 posts

236 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Nice combination, never thought I’d be a trend setter though biggrin

Miserablegit

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4,170 posts

116 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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bow

Hoofty

712 posts

197 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Last I checked, Gris Montebello no longer available on the Atelier list...

<STROKES CHIN> scratchchin

(er, presumably to support this spesh edish)

Althalus

341 posts

246 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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I'm actually tempted to change my order to this, but waiting to see on price...

CliveJ7

65 posts

70 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Saw this in the flesh at the Jean Redele tribute in Dieppe last weekend. Gris Montebello looked absolutely gorgeous and is very subtle - it's not surprising the Atelier colour's nearly, or completely, sold out!
IMHO this special edition could be THE one for collectors...

Althalus

341 posts

246 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Only 5 coming to the UK and priced at just over £70,000.
Sadly a bit more spendy than I'm up for, but definitely a good collection shout.

bcr5784

7,182 posts

152 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Althalus said:
Only 5 coming to the UK and priced at just over £70,000.
Sadly a bit more spendy than I'm up for, but definitely a good collection shout.
That does seem a bit steep. I can't see £10+ of extras over an "ordinary" GT or am I missing something?

Simon Owen

838 posts

141 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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bcr5784 said:
Althalus said:
Only 5 coming to the UK and priced at just over £70,000.
Sadly a bit more spendy than I'm up for, but definitely a good collection shout.
That does seem a bit steep. I can't see £10+ of extras over an "ordinary" GT or am I missing something?
Bit of an issue for Alpine generally in my eyes, i.e. the difference between a base car and a top spec car is mainly just 'bling' isn't it. Suspension (on the S) and perhaps brakes aside they all drive virtually the same don't they. The press have intimated there remains huge untapped potential within the chassis, it's a shame that Alpine haven't approached this in the way say Renaultsport did with some of their models. We all know the stock cars suspension is good but can you imagine how well the attributes of the car would respond to really plush high quality dampers plus other tangible mechanical improvements - I appreciate we have Life110 who are working on this for us !!

The flip side for those of us us with a budget starting with a 5 and not a 7 is you really do get all the driver engagement with the base car don't you smile

Miserablegit

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4,170 posts

116 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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I don’t see a problem- if people want to spend £70k I’m glad Alpine are offering them cars at that level.

The only thing which might get me to swap the
PE would be an outrageous run-out model with a GT4 spoiler and over 300HP otherwise I can just get the PE tuned.

bcr5784

7,182 posts

152 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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If it helps to keep the brand profitable then that is a good thing for Alpine's future.

That said (and no-one could accuse me of being a Porsche fan boy!), Porsche do more interesting special editions. They throw in a mix of options which will appeal to some buyers and then price it slightly BELOW what you would have to pay if you ordered all the options. Given that Alpine's way of grouping options is somewhat bizarre, there seems to be a case for special editions with more interesting set of options. How about a Pure Sport, for example, - with 300bhp, and maybe big brakes (if they are genuinely desirable with the extra power), maybe a sports exhaust and so on.

Simon Owen

838 posts

141 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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A GT4 is a very different driving experience to a stock Cayman, as is a GT3 to a base 911, Lotus also did it with the Elise, Exige & Evora variants. The difference in driving experience between all the A110's is very small regardless of what you specify, be it a base car or a top spec car.

Nothing wrong with that and it's personal preferences and all that - just seems a wasted opportunity in my eyes for a genuine high performance focussed model in the range. Appreciating the A110 will never have a flat six like the GT4, or a manual box there are other attributes to A110 that could set it apart as a real competitor - c300kg weigh saving being an obvious one smile

Complex for Alpine to do this I know but I'm convinced it would sell well.


Meonstoke

275 posts

109 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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All sold out / reserved in half a day... impressive.

stephendell

73 posts

234 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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45 mins allegedly

stephendell

73 posts

234 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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Scrub that. 34 seconds apparently to sell them all.

Miserablegit

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4,170 posts

116 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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Really?? Or am I missing a parrot

Adam205

819 posts

189 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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Any views on how these limited editions fare in the used market? I've only seen one Legende GT and one Legende GT 2021 advertised previously, both well above list, neither up for that long. Are they actually selling at that money?

Meonstoke

275 posts

109 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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My take on it is the Limited Editions need to offer something truly unique to justify a stronger residual value. Together with the tan leather interior and stitching; that’s why l plumbed for the metallic Mercury Silver 2020 Legende GT, and not the standard metallic blue or black options. It was in fact an extension of the Atelier range if you think about it. And only 200 approx produced (apparently, production was a approx 50/50 split between the mercury silver and the blue) - and with the promise the metallic mercury would never be offered again....

I had to laugh hard when Alpine duly offered a matt version of mercury silver for the 2021 Legende GT version! Strictly speaking they kept to their word, just - a bit cheeky though.

They’ve gone down a similar route with the Redele LE. I can imagine the folks who ordered a 2022 GT with Montebello Grijs atelier with black leather and the grey stitching option (or was it white?) would be somewhat miffed. The above configuration would have been my choice for the ‘22 GT - in fact l was pondering over it but l couldn’t get the man maths through to make it fly. The extra power and torque would be nice but l’d lose the mercury silver and tan interior combo which to my eyes is the classiest combo so far and, of course, totally unique to 200 cars +/-.

The Redele LE will appeal to those who wanted a gloss metallic silver car - and this was their last chance - and/or are Alpine die hard collectors.

Edited by Meonstoke on Friday 3rd June 19:18

Adam205

819 posts

189 months

Saturday 4th June 2022
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Meonstoke said:
My take on it is the Limited Editions need to offer something truly unique to justify a stronger residual value. Together with the tan leather interior and stitching; that’s why l plumbed for the metallic Mercury Silver 2020 Legende GT, and not the standard metallic blue or black options. It was in fact an extension of the Atelier range if you think about it. And only 200 approx produced (apparently, production was a approx 50/50 split between the mercury silver and the blue) - and with the promise the metallic mercury would never be offered again....

I had to laugh hard when Alpine duly offered a matt version of mercury silver for the 2021 Legende GT version! Strictly speaking they kept to their word, just - a bit cheeky though.

They’ve gone down a similar route with the Redele LE. I can imagine the folks who ordered a 2022 GT with Montebello Grijs atelier with black leather and the grey stitching option (or was it white?) would be somewhat miffed. The above configuration would have been my choice for the ‘22 GT - in fact l was pondering over it but l couldn’t get the man maths through to make it fly. The extra power and torque would be nice but l’d lose the mercury silver and tan interior combo which to my eyes is the classiest combo so far and, of course, totally unique to 200 cars +/-.

The Redele LE will appeal to those who wanted a gloss metallic silver car - and this was their last chance - and/or are Alpine die hard collectors.

Edited by Meonstoke on Friday 3rd June 19:18
Interesting thought. Obviously half the attraction of an A110 is that you are unlikely to see another one the same even if you buy a non-limited run car (although I did pass another abyss blue a110 on the A429 north of Cirencester the other day....), and Renault's typical approach of not-massively-different limited editions means the specs are rarely special for long. Does the limited supply of that exact specification, plus a numbered plaque, actually affect the values positively?

bcr5784

7,182 posts

152 months

Saturday 4th June 2022
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Adam205 said:
Interesting thought. Obviously half the attraction of an A110 is that you are unlikely to see another one the same even if you buy a non-limited run car (although I did pass another abyss blue a110 on the A429 north of Cirencester the other day....), and Renault's typical approach of not-massively-different limited editions means the specs are rarely special for long. Does the limited supply of that exact specification, plus a numbered plaque, actually affect the values positively?
I can't honestly say that I have noticed the PEs being significantly more expensive than similarly equipped Pures (though, since they were cheaper to start with they have held their value better). I expect, long term, that Atelier colours and special editions, given their high prices, will depreciate MORE than the more basic cars. That said, I have been surprized at the popularity of Atelier colours, given the price, so I might be proved wrong again.