Discussion
five50 said:
WorldWideWebs - any feedback on the Life110 performance rears, now they are back in stock?
Sorry, five50, been on holiday and have only just seen this.On the rear axle I've gone from Tarox discs with Carbotech XP8 pads to OEM discs and Life110 pads. Without doubt the former setup performs better. However, the difference isn't massive and there is zero squeal on the road! So basically I achieved what I set out to - excellent
What I would say though is that I have suffered some 'grumbling' from the brakes and I can only really put this down to the rears as the front setup has stayed unchanged for over 18 months. It wasn't awful, just slightly disconcerting, although they did seem to continue to work. I've just done a second day with the setup and again they performed well with some more grumbling/judder. In fact, the car flew around Anglesey but that had more to do with the AST coilovers which are quite simply superb.
I did message Mr Pook after the first day and he suggested trying the Tarox discs with his pads, which I will probably do later this month. I have Spa booked for the 1st of July and would like to try this combo out before then. The OEM discs are pretty soft but I wanted to try them again as they are quite a bit lighter than the Tarox. Ideally I'd try a different lightweight rear disc but I'm not aware of one available (at least in this country)
worldwidewebs said:
The OEM discs are pretty soft but I wanted to try them again as they are quite a bit lighter than the Tarox. Ideally I'd try a different lightweight rear disc but I'm not aware of one available (at least in this country)
Try Paul or Anneliese at Wortec (not always quick to reply, but be persistent). Their floating discs are c.2kg lighter per disc than EOM. I have them on my S.Spokeyblokey said:
Try Paul or Anneliese at Wortec (not always quick to reply, but be persistent). Their floating discs are c.2kg lighter per disc than EOM. I have them on my S.
Do they fit front and rear or just rear? Do you use them on track? What pads? (sorry for all the questions!!!!)worldwidewebs said:
Spokeyblokey said:
Try Paul or Anneliese at Wortec (not always quick to reply, but be persistent). Their floating discs are c.2kg lighter per disc than EOM. I have them on my S.
Do they fit front and rear or just rear? Do you use them on track? What pads? (sorry for all the questions!!!!)https://www.instagram.com/p/C5jER9jtXYt/?img_index...
and rear:
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5llEGSIsa1/
I have Life110 performance road pads on the front and OEMs on the back. I don't track my car, at least not yet. Take a look at Wortec's instagram feed for a better idea of the work they do. Btw Paul & Anneliese have their own A110 which these discs are also fitted to.
Spokeyblokey said:
worldwidewebs said:
Spokeyblokey said:
Try Paul or Anneliese at Wortec (not always quick to reply, but be persistent). Their floating discs are c.2kg lighter per disc than EOM. I have them on my S.
Do they fit front and rear or just rear? Do you use them on track? What pads? (sorry for all the questions!!!!)https://www.instagram.com/p/C5jER9jtXYt/?img_index...
and rear:
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5llEGSIsa1/
I have Life110 performance road pads on the front and OEMs on the back. I don't track my car, at least not yet. Take a look at Wortec's instagram feed for a better idea of the work they do. Btw Paul & Anneliese have their own A110 which these discs are also fitted to.
Franzino said:
Pagid RSL-29 (on street and track) with AP racing front discs and custom made bell by Local AP distributor. The standard Alpine discs (front) are too soft (for regular track use) and needed replacement after 25.000KM (15.000miles). The AP racing discs (two piece and floating) have better cooling, less weight and 2-3 times longer lifespan.
We are with 4 friends who all own an Alpine A110 (Pure / S / Légende GT / Légende) and we all have the same braking set-up for street and regular track. Zero complaints about our set up!
Hi Franzino. Who made the front discs for you, please? Thanks. James. We are with 4 friends who all own an Alpine A110 (Pure / S / Légende GT / Légende) and we all have the same braking set-up for street and regular track. Zero complaints about our set up!
Following my last track day at Anglesey on Monday I've noticed that my front pads (Carbotech XP8) are getting low. They probably have another 1 or 2 days left in them but I'm off to Spa in a few weeks and don't want to risk it, so new pads ordered. That then got me thinking - do I keep using the Tarox discs or use this opportunity to swap to something better and lighter? Well, I think it's time to swap, but what for?
Girodisc - 320mm. Fit front only. Seem decent enough and there are a few people tracking with them. Life110 sell them but I don't think David has them on his car.
Mosa Frein - AP Racing 320mm. Front only. Always impressed with AP stuff but it is more pricey and I'm not yet sure what they would cost with import duty etc. I also think the pad needs to be machined down a tiny amount and I can't see me being able to get that done easily. I think these are also sold by NM-Engineering
MP-Rezeau - GR3 kit, AP Racing 330mm. Fits front and rear. AP kit again and a slightly bigger disc. Needs caliper spacers and I'm unsure whether they are included in the kit price but I've sent them an email so we'll see. A friend has these on his A110R and is mightily impressed. Also unsure whether the pad needs machining although I would expect not as the spacers should resolve that problem. Again the same questions about landed costs to the UK (Editied to add that they have confirmed they can ship to the UK and sell free of French VAT, so that should be easy enough)
Reyland - I'm sure they do something to fit but can't see it on their website (Megane/Clio fit). Much cheaper if they can do something. Comms aren't their strong point based on my last interaction with them so if there isn't anything on the shelf I won't bother further
Wortec - 320mm. Fit front and rear. Don't know anything about them other than the photos. They could be the very finest available but I've yet to see them being used hard on track and I don't want to be a guinea pig (unless they are VERY cheap).
Have I missed anything?
I can see me going down the Girodisc route due to ease but I will try and see what MP-R can do first. I hear they are superb when you're there in person but can be a bit hit and miss with email/phone.
Girodisc - 320mm. Fit front only. Seem decent enough and there are a few people tracking with them. Life110 sell them but I don't think David has them on his car.
Mosa Frein - AP Racing 320mm. Front only. Always impressed with AP stuff but it is more pricey and I'm not yet sure what they would cost with import duty etc. I also think the pad needs to be machined down a tiny amount and I can't see me being able to get that done easily. I think these are also sold by NM-Engineering
MP-Rezeau - GR3 kit, AP Racing 330mm. Fits front and rear. AP kit again and a slightly bigger disc. Needs caliper spacers and I'm unsure whether they are included in the kit price but I've sent them an email so we'll see. A friend has these on his A110R and is mightily impressed. Also unsure whether the pad needs machining although I would expect not as the spacers should resolve that problem. Again the same questions about landed costs to the UK (Editied to add that they have confirmed they can ship to the UK and sell free of French VAT, so that should be easy enough)
Reyland - I'm sure they do something to fit but can't see it on their website (Megane/Clio fit). Much cheaper if they can do something. Comms aren't their strong point based on my last interaction with them so if there isn't anything on the shelf I won't bother further
Wortec - 320mm. Fit front and rear. Don't know anything about them other than the photos. They could be the very finest available but I've yet to see them being used hard on track and I don't want to be a guinea pig (unless they are VERY cheap).
Have I missed anything?
I can see me going down the Girodisc route due to ease but I will try and see what MP-R can do first. I hear they are superb when you're there in person but can be a bit hit and miss with email/phone.
Edited by worldwidewebs on Friday 31st May 07:35
Didn’t want to start a new thread but I wondered if there were any further views on pads/discs.
Just had my 6 year service at 40,000 miles and still on original pads and discs.
Apparently my rear pads and discs will need replacing very shortly but front are ok. I thought this was odd but that’s what they said.
Dealer replacement cost is £1000+ and I was wondering if there was a better option for a car that isn’t tracked. I see some of the track day cars use uprated front and manufacturer rear discs.
I’ve got the bigger brakes
Considering getting uprated front discs and moving front discs to rear or should I just stump up for alpine rear discs and pads?
Many thanks in advance
Just had my 6 year service at 40,000 miles and still on original pads and discs.
Apparently my rear pads and discs will need replacing very shortly but front are ok. I thought this was odd but that’s what they said.
Dealer replacement cost is £1000+ and I was wondering if there was a better option for a car that isn’t tracked. I see some of the track day cars use uprated front and manufacturer rear discs.
I’ve got the bigger brakes
Considering getting uprated front discs and moving front discs to rear or should I just stump up for alpine rear discs and pads?
Many thanks in advance
Hi Mg - I’m still looking for the ideal choice, maybe Girodisc as I trust what David (Life110) offers.
An alternative is: I don’t think it’s practical to buy the Mosa Frein items due to import tax and VAT; I might be able to get to Mosa Frein on the way back from Spa/ Nür in November but ideally I’d like something better put on the car -before- that trip. As I’m replacing the rear discs and pads on Sunday night, I can also measure up a front disc and find an AP Racing rotor of the right spec and have some floating bells machined, as Mosa Frein have done. I know the discs are 320x28mm, I’ll need to know the rotor width that the pad has contact with plus the offset of the mounting section. I might be able to just send AP an old disc (if someone would sell me one they are replacing?) Time to get the calipers out! (See what I did there?!)
James.
An alternative is: I don’t think it’s practical to buy the Mosa Frein items due to import tax and VAT; I might be able to get to Mosa Frein on the way back from Spa/ Nür in November but ideally I’d like something better put on the car -before- that trip. As I’m replacing the rear discs and pads on Sunday night, I can also measure up a front disc and find an AP Racing rotor of the right spec and have some floating bells machined, as Mosa Frein have done. I know the discs are 320x28mm, I’ll need to know the rotor width that the pad has contact with plus the offset of the mounting section. I might be able to just send AP an old disc (if someone would sell me one they are replacing?) Time to get the calipers out! (See what I did there?!)
James.
Miserablegit said:
Didn’t want to start a new thread but I wondered if there were any further views on pads/discs.
Just had my 6 year service at 40,000 miles and still on original pads and discs.
Apparently my rear pads and discs will need replacing very shortly but front are ok. I thought this was odd but that’s what they said.
Dealer replacement cost is £1000+ and I was wondering if there was a better option for a car that isn’t tracked. I see some of the track day cars use uprated front and manufacturer rear discs.
I’ve got the bigger brakes
Considering getting uprated front discs and moving front discs to rear or should I just stump up for alpine rear discs and pads?
Many thanks in advance
How much are they quoting just for the discs and pads? Labour-wise it's an hour's job. Just had my 6 year service at 40,000 miles and still on original pads and discs.
Apparently my rear pads and discs will need replacing very shortly but front are ok. I thought this was odd but that’s what they said.
Dealer replacement cost is £1000+ and I was wondering if there was a better option for a car that isn’t tracked. I see some of the track day cars use uprated front and manufacturer rear discs.
I’ve got the bigger brakes
Considering getting uprated front discs and moving front discs to rear or should I just stump up for alpine rear discs and pads?
Many thanks in advance
The Tarox discs I have are £372 for a pair. They are heavier than standard but significantly better (fit both front and rear, which many do not). Performance road pads from Life110 are £189. So that's less than £600 in parts.
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