Is this car ULEZ-compliant? Recent-import Previa.
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Hi,
Long story short: is this car ULEZ-compliant? Toyota Previa (/Estima) import, 2007, 2.4l engine. I've checked on the ULEZ-checker website and it says 'this car is not found.'
Long story: friend needs a large car as he has lots of kids. He has a Previa at the mo but it's falling apart. He fancies a more modern version and has found a Previa which fits the bill. Ad is here:
https://www.gumtree.com/p/toyota/toyota-previa-est...
It's clearly an import and the whole thing is ringing so many bells it's untrue (Gumtree ad, seller claims he's owned it for many years but there is no MOT history earlier than Jan 2019, suspiciously cheap, evasive on details etc) but the killer will be whether it's ULEZ-compliant or not. For what it's worth, I think it's a model XR50 third generation Previa with the 2AZ-FE engine.
All help welcomed (both about this car and about the Euro-rating of Japanese import cars generally). Thanks!
Long story short: is this car ULEZ-compliant? Toyota Previa (/Estima) import, 2007, 2.4l engine. I've checked on the ULEZ-checker website and it says 'this car is not found.'
Long story: friend needs a large car as he has lots of kids. He has a Previa at the mo but it's falling apart. He fancies a more modern version and has found a Previa which fits the bill. Ad is here:
https://www.gumtree.com/p/toyota/toyota-previa-est...
It's clearly an import and the whole thing is ringing so many bells it's untrue (Gumtree ad, seller claims he's owned it for many years but there is no MOT history earlier than Jan 2019, suspiciously cheap, evasive on details etc) but the killer will be whether it's ULEZ-compliant or not. For what it's worth, I think it's a model XR50 third generation Previa with the 2AZ-FE engine.
All help welcomed (both about this car and about the Euro-rating of Japanese import cars generally). Thanks!
2Btoo said:
Ooooh, good sleuthing - thanks. (How did you find that?)
No sleuthing - that would be against against the rules.I thought I recognised chummy's mobile number from a similar advert I saw on Gumtree a few months back. I simply trawled back through my internet history until I found the ad.
Honestly
There was another thread recently - from what I can gather:
- ULEZ requires a petrol to meet Euro 4
- Euro 4 required all type approvals to be compliant by January 2005, and there was a year's grace period for cars on sale to meet it
- Thus anything manufactured / first registered after January 2006 for the UK & European market would have had to meet it.
- TFL seem to be taking that date onwards as equivalent to Euro 4 compliant for petrol imports from elsewhere.
So that Previa would be OK. Recently imported stuff seems to come up "not known" but if you trawl ebay and autotrader for similar imports that are from legit private sellers who've had them a while the Jan 2006 onwards rule seems to work fine. So anything capable of wearing an 06 or later plate is clear, 55 is possible, 05 and earlier no.
There seems to be a world of pain if you own something slightly older that *should* meet the rules but you can't prove it, including Japanese-sold cars that were also sold here. The Japanese emissions tests and standards cover the same things but to different methods so can't be directly compared, nor is it something that can be covered by MOT testing equipment.
- ULEZ requires a petrol to meet Euro 4
- Euro 4 required all type approvals to be compliant by January 2005, and there was a year's grace period for cars on sale to meet it
- Thus anything manufactured / first registered after January 2006 for the UK & European market would have had to meet it.
- TFL seem to be taking that date onwards as equivalent to Euro 4 compliant for petrol imports from elsewhere.
So that Previa would be OK. Recently imported stuff seems to come up "not known" but if you trawl ebay and autotrader for similar imports that are from legit private sellers who've had them a while the Jan 2006 onwards rule seems to work fine. So anything capable of wearing an 06 or later plate is clear, 55 is possible, 05 and earlier no.
There seems to be a world of pain if you own something slightly older that *should* meet the rules but you can't prove it, including Japanese-sold cars that were also sold here. The Japanese emissions tests and standards cover the same things but to different methods so can't be directly compared, nor is it something that can be covered by MOT testing equipment.
Thanks for the help. Scrump, I'd suggest that most of the discussion on that thread you linked to is about whether a certain word is derogatory or not rather than whether Japanese import cars are ULEZ-compliant or not. 
Either way, we went to see it and the friend bought it. There was no history and the guy selling it was very clearly a dealer masquerading as a private seller and his story had more holes in it that Fiona Onasanya's PCoJ defence but my friend's old car is falling apart (fairly literally) and this new one one seemed to be a decent example from what I could tell. We didn't give the guy the price he wanted but I think we paid a fair price for a reasonable car (although still slightly against my better judgement!) If it turns out that the car isn't ULEZ-compliant then he will just have to sell it in a couple of years and buy something else.
So .... all's well that ends well. And, for a big old automatic 8-seat bus, it was a surprisingly nice piece of machinery! About as far away from the classics that I normally play with but I was (almost) smitten.
Thanks for your help. It's appreciated.
Either way, we went to see it and the friend bought it. There was no history and the guy selling it was very clearly a dealer masquerading as a private seller and his story had more holes in it that Fiona Onasanya's PCoJ defence but my friend's old car is falling apart (fairly literally) and this new one one seemed to be a decent example from what I could tell. We didn't give the guy the price he wanted but I think we paid a fair price for a reasonable car (although still slightly against my better judgement!) If it turns out that the car isn't ULEZ-compliant then he will just have to sell it in a couple of years and buy something else.
So .... all's well that ends well. And, for a big old automatic 8-seat bus, it was a surprisingly nice piece of machinery! About as far away from the classics that I normally play with but I was (almost) smitten.
Thanks for your help. It's appreciated.
Hi,
I am new to this so please forgive me if somebody has already answered my question.
I'm checking Toyota Previas for ULEZ charge compliance.
If I go to the following site it says the 2002 Previa is not subject to the ULEZ charge. How can this be? It's so old?:
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emissio...
GY02KKX Silver TOYOTA PREVIA CDX VVTI AUTO
You are not subject to the ULEZ.
You do not need to take any action. However, other charges may apply.
Other charges
You may still be subject to the Congestion Charge
I am new to this so please forgive me if somebody has already answered my question.
I'm checking Toyota Previas for ULEZ charge compliance.
If I go to the following site it says the 2002 Previa is not subject to the ULEZ charge. How can this be? It's so old?:
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emissio...
GY02KKX Silver TOYOTA PREVIA CDX VVTI AUTO
You are not subject to the ULEZ.
You do not need to take any action. However, other charges may apply.
Other charges
You may still be subject to the Congestion Charge
If it's actually badged/registered as a Previa then I'm assuming it's a UK car, they were sold here till 2005.
This reckons that shape, sold in the UK, met the Euro 4 standard - so would be OK under ULEZ. https://www.parkers.co.uk/toyota/previa/estate-200...
This reckons that shape, sold in the UK, met the Euro 4 standard - so would be OK under ULEZ. https://www.parkers.co.uk/toyota/previa/estate-200...
I'm sure you are correct but for example
Y656MVX is a 2001 Previa ie almost 20 yrs old and ULEZ says its fne.
X732GWH
is from 2000 and fine with ULEZ.
A subtle combination of intuition and paranoia is suggesting to me that something is not quite right.
This website gives emmission information:
https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/emissions/euro-...
Euro 4 only goes back to 2005.
Something is afoot.
Y656MVX is a 2001 Previa ie almost 20 yrs old and ULEZ says its fne.
X732GWH
is from 2000 and fine with ULEZ.
A subtle combination of intuition and paranoia is suggesting to me that something is not quite right.
This website gives emmission information:
https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/emissions/euro-...
Euro 4 only goes back to 2005.
Something is afoot.
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