Toyota GR Yaris - Official! (Vol 2)
Discussion
ferrisbueller said:
What people are saying is that footage isn't representative of the full potential and given some context, which you're now saying isn't realistic itself.
Not sure what the quip about Walter is about. I don't know him personally but have mutual acquaintances and by all accounts he's a very nice man, as is AP.
Misquoted again. Not sure what the quip about Walter is about. I don't know him personally but have mutual acquaintances and by all accounts he's a very nice man, as is AP.
Think I’ll refrain from this thread now.
Are people not allowed different opinions?
Toxic.
MannyLon said:
ferrisbueller said:
What people are saying is that footage isn't representative of the full potential and given some context, which you're now saying isn't realistic itself.
Not sure what the quip about Walter is about. I don't know him personally but have mutual acquaintances and by all accounts he's a very nice man, as is AP.
Misquoted again. Not sure what the quip about Walter is about. I don't know him personally but have mutual acquaintances and by all accounts he's a very nice man, as is AP.
Think I’ll refrain from this thread now.
Are people not allowed different opinions?
Toxic.
Feel free to flounce.
ferrisbueller said:
PhilPol said:
In the wet even more so. But apparently only dry comparisons are relevant.
The conversation was related to a specific video which someone was using as evidence to support an opinion.Stand down, No-one has questioned the real world prowess of a GR.
PhilPol said:
ferrisbueller said:
PhilPol said:
In the wet even more so. But apparently only dry comparisons are relevant.
The conversation was related to a specific video which someone was using as evidence to support an opinion.Stand down, No-one has questioned the real world prowess of a GR.
ferrisbueller said:
PhilPol said:
ferrisbueller said:
PhilPol said:
In the wet even more so. But apparently only dry comparisons are relevant.
The conversation was related to a specific video which someone was using as evidence to support an opinion.Stand down, No-one has questioned the real world prowess of a GR.
PhilPol said:
ferrisbueller said:
PhilPol said:
ferrisbueller said:
PhilPol said:
In the wet even more so. But apparently only dry comparisons are relevant.
The conversation was related to a specific video which someone was using as evidence to support an opinion.Stand down, No-one has questioned the real world prowess of a GR.
Having driven the car I have no doubt it is very capable. But suggestions that it can embarass more expensive machinery (of similar sporting intent) in the dry (at least) seem optimistic. The best hot hatches (like the Type R) seem to have the legs of it even on short tracks and (imo) would have a significant advantage on a power-favouring circuit like the Ring. I very much doubt that it is quicker than round corners than hot hatches on similar rubber let alone (more expensive) mid engined cars like a Cayman (let alone a 911 on Cup 2s)
In the wet it will doubtless close the gap somewhat, but on a fast circuit like the 'Ring I think it would have to be very wet before its traction advantage would be decisive - at least not compared with someone who can really drive.
In the wet it will doubtless close the gap somewhat, but on a fast circuit like the 'Ring I think it would have to be very wet before its traction advantage would be decisive - at least not compared with someone who can really drive.
bcr5784 said:
Having driven the car I have no doubt it is very capable. But suggestions that it can embarass more expensive machinery (of similar sporting intent) in the dry (at least) seem optimistic. The best hot hatches (like the Type R) seem to have the legs of it even on short tracks and (imo) would have a significant advantage on a power-favouring circuit like the Ring. I very much doubt that it is quicker than round corners than hot hatches on similar rubber let alone (more expensive) mid engined cars like a Cayman (let alone a 911 on Cup 2s)
In the wet it will doubtless close the gap somewhat, but on a fast circuit like the 'Ring I think it would have to be very wet before its traction advantage would be decisive - at least not compared with someone who can really drive.
+1In the wet it will doubtless close the gap somewhat, but on a fast circuit like the 'Ring I think it would have to be very wet before its traction advantage would be decisive - at least not compared with someone who can really drive.
Down a winter British B road then yes it likely is more capable than more expensive stuff but not on a long track in the dry.
ecsrobin said:
bcr5784 said:
Having driven the car I have no doubt it is very capable. But suggestions that it can embarass more expensive machinery (of similar sporting intent) in the dry (at least) seem optimistic. The best hot hatches (like the Type R) seem to have the legs of it even on short tracks and (imo) would have a significant advantage on a power-favouring circuit like the Ring. I very much doubt that it is quicker than round corners than hot hatches on similar rubber let alone (more expensive) mid engined cars like a Cayman (let alone a 911 on Cup 2s)
In the wet it will doubtless close the gap somewhat, but on a fast circuit like the 'Ring I think it would have to be very wet before its traction advantage would be decisive - at least not compared with someone who can really drive.
+1In the wet it will doubtless close the gap somewhat, but on a fast circuit like the 'Ring I think it would have to be very wet before its traction advantage would be decisive - at least not compared with someone who can really drive.
Down a winter British B road then yes it likely is more capable than more expensive stuff but not on a long track in the dry.
These Youtubers with their drag races and track time comparisons are missing the point. Stick a GT3 or Civic R down a rally stage and see how it gets on. Now that's a vid i would like and subscribe.
I would like all three. A pretty perfect little three car garage right there. FWD/4WD/RWD. 3/4/6 cylinders. Turbo and NA. All with manuals. All capable on road and track, but very different dynamically. All exciting to drive. They should be celebrated, the days of cars like this are seriously numbered now.
I think I would go for the yellow LE Type-R, Shark Blue GT3 and Scarlet Flare GR Yaris. A lovely little trio of primary coloured beauties.
I think I would go for the yellow LE Type-R, Shark Blue GT3 and Scarlet Flare GR Yaris. A lovely little trio of primary coloured beauties.
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