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I'm struggling to work out why it took 9 hours to get it moved?
https://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/23757562.bro...
https://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/23757562.bro...
How stupid can people be to fail to move something as lightweight as a car for 9 hours...
Here is where it stopped: https://goo.gl/maps/EmXgfpG12U8qENMP6
About 10 mins drive away is an industrial park with a classic car and racing business and also a tyre centre. Both would have trolley jacks and skids that could make the car moveable. Both are expert at not damaging cars. Both are independent businesses and would have helped for the publicity.
How anyone can sit there like a plum for an entire day and not conclude that it's not that f
king difficult to shift a 2 tonne object a few metres is beyond me.
Surely as the hours swept by anyone capable of tying their own shoelaces should start to think it might be a plan to contact locals that could definitely help..
Here is where it stopped: https://goo.gl/maps/EmXgfpG12U8qENMP6
About 10 mins drive away is an industrial park with a classic car and racing business and also a tyre centre. Both would have trolley jacks and skids that could make the car moveable. Both are expert at not damaging cars. Both are independent businesses and would have helped for the publicity.
How anyone can sit there like a plum for an entire day and not conclude that it's not that f
king difficult to shift a 2 tonne object a few metres is beyond me.Surely as the hours swept by anyone capable of tying their own shoelaces should start to think it might be a plan to contact locals that could definitely help..
Geffg said:
Can an ev not move without power then? Don’t they have a neutral position? I know they’re electric motors but in general when no power applied a motor can be turned.
I assume parking brake on which is a a worm drive clamp that can't be forced against it's drive, it requires power or mechanical manipulation to remove it. The car must have had a complete power loss for some reason - including 12v battery. Most likely the 12v battery was long dead but the car was able to charge it constantly enough for it to continue to do it's job, until the cars main battery lost power.This is not an EV thing, it's an electronic parking brake thing. The method for most cars is to remove the power supply to the locked (rear) wheels parking brake actuation units and introduce 12v to the contacts to manually release each motor.
I know the above method because I googled it for five minutes just now - and it does work on a dead Tesla. A shame that copper failed to find 5 minutes to google something in 9 hours - he must be epic in an emergency!
budgie smuggler said:
There must be more to this, surely it doesn't take 9 hours to get a couple of trolley jacks or a recovery vehicle
The world is full of people that don't know how to do something and also don't know how to ask or how to help themselves. The copper attending the incident that presided over the road closure for all those hours will no doubt be getting some pretty serious ribbing for it back at base. Perhaps he's the guy they send to all the 'not very important or interesting' calls they get 
LivLL said:
It's bizarre, recovery truck hook and chains. Drag it on the back, gone in 30 mins max.
Charge the owner for the callout.
No recovery agent is going to drag something like that as it will certainly cause damage, but I don't see why it could be lifted like they do when repossessing vehicles etc.Charge the owner for the callout.
Unless the Tesla was too heavy for a lift but surely they do it for larger 4x4 which weigh even more?
PistonTim said:
No recovery agent is going to drag something like that as it will certainly cause damage, but I don't see why it could be lifted like they do when repossessing vehicles etc.
Unless the Tesla was too heavy for a lift but surely they do it for larger 4x4 which weigh even more?
Towing eye, teflon slippers for the back wheels and drag it up on a flatbed. Why would that damage anything?Unless the Tesla was too heavy for a lift but surely they do it for larger 4x4 which weigh even more?
It will be down to I suspect a couple of factors:
1) the police only have so many contracts with X many providers
2) those providers having a full lift recovery vehicle so each wheel is off the ground.
3) given it needs a fully vehicle lift no one with any sensible knowledge is going to drag it anywhere.
I personally have experienced this as the one local to me yes has lots of recovery vehicles, but mine needs a fully demountable owing to ground clearance. They only have 1.
1) the police only have so many contracts with X many providers
2) those providers having a full lift recovery vehicle so each wheel is off the ground.
3) given it needs a fully vehicle lift no one with any sensible knowledge is going to drag it anywhere.
I personally have experienced this as the one local to me yes has lots of recovery vehicles, but mine needs a fully demountable owing to ground clearance. They only have 1.
It’s not the police’s job to tow cars off the road unless it’s being siezed as evidence.
It down to the owner of the vehicle or the road “owners” be it highways, local authority etc to remove it.
Most electrical vehicles need a full lift and can’t be towed.
This will become a more and more common problem.
It down to the owner of the vehicle or the road “owners” be it highways, local authority etc to remove it.
Most electrical vehicles need a full lift and can’t be towed.
This will become a more and more common problem.
Why do they need lifting? Slippers or dollies can be used for all cars normally.
As for the Police, when a lorry didn't stop and hit my car on the M1 I didn't get a choice of waiting for recovery from the hard shoulder. Police called their local contractor and sent me the bill. The Police most definitely are tasked with removing cars blocking the roads, it is part of their job and legally allowed.
I think there's too much sitting on hands going on with minor problems these days, if a car is blocking a major trunk road it should be removed. Waiting 9 hours is ridiculous. Hence my comments about it probably not being a busy road or really causing any issues. I'm sure if an EV broke down at the entrance to a Police station they wouldn't just let it sit there for 9 hours.
As for the Police, when a lorry didn't stop and hit my car on the M1 I didn't get a choice of waiting for recovery from the hard shoulder. Police called their local contractor and sent me the bill. The Police most definitely are tasked with removing cars blocking the roads, it is part of their job and legally allowed.
I think there's too much sitting on hands going on with minor problems these days, if a car is blocking a major trunk road it should be removed. Waiting 9 hours is ridiculous. Hence my comments about it probably not being a busy road or really causing any issues. I'm sure if an EV broke down at the entrance to a Police station they wouldn't just let it sit there for 9 hours.
Why the worry about the damage?
I mean from an ownership perspective I get it, but isn't there some coverage for authorities that an object causing a dangerous obstruction can be just moved e.g. forcibly dragged out of the way by a tractor or any other capable vehicle...
I get dangerous obstruction is subjective, but I think after a couple of hours this counts.
I mean from an ownership perspective I get it, but isn't there some coverage for authorities that an object causing a dangerous obstruction can be just moved e.g. forcibly dragged out of the way by a tractor or any other capable vehicle...
I get dangerous obstruction is subjective, but I think after a couple of hours this counts.
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