Tesla M3 standard range, range?

[mazdajason]

Evening,

I’ll be moving from a Kia E-Niro4+ to a Sept 21 MY model 3 SR+ around the time of the new year.

Currently in my Kia, I get a genuine 210 miles in winter of motorway mileage. I don’t scrimp on heating etc either. Am I likely to get this in the Tesla too? That’s sitting at 70-74mph as its average speed camera roads between Aberdeen - Glasgow / edinburgh. In summer this is 250 miles. According to the on board computer I do 3.5kw/h over my 18k miles in the last 18m.
Has anyone done a similar move? I can’t get the LR sadly, it’s SR or stick with the Kia.

[CharlieAlphaMike]

With the new LFP batteries in the latest Model 3, you can charge to 100%. Tesla recommend you do this once a week. With 100% charge, I've been getting an indicated 270 mile range.

I haven't had the car long enough to go through a winter of driving yet but expect that range will go down during the colder months. I should also add that most of my driving is local, not long motorway journeys. Equally, I'm not stuck in traffic jams. My driving is all on rural, quiet roads.

Hope this helps.

[page3]

I have a 2021 SR+.

During last winter I’d say 200 miles, 230 summer. This is erring on the side of caution.

I’ve found altitude changes to be the biggest influence on range, rather than outright speed.

[Benny Saltstein]

I also have MY2021 M3 SR+. I've averaged exactly 250wh/mile over 17k miles so with the 55kw battery would indicate typical range of 220 miles.

[Maracus]

Just for context.....My Mar 2020 SR+ with the original 48kWh battery, non LFP averages around 190 on a warm 22 deg, and 150 on a cold 5 deg day for the same theoretical 70mph motorway journey.

The LFP batteries look to be a decent improvement.

[SWoll]

page3 said:

I have a 2021 SR+.

During last winter I’d say 200 miles, 230 summer. This is erring on the side of caution.

I’ve found altitude changes to be the biggest influence on range, rather than outright speed.

Altitude changes?

Driving uphill is obviously a lot less efficienct than driving down, but speed and weather conditions will always be the biggest influencers surely as only so many miles you can do uphill?

[NDA]

page3 said:

I have a 2021 SR+.

During last winter I’d say 200 miles, 230 summer. This is erring on the side of caution.

I’ve found altitude changes to be the biggest influence on range, rather than outright speed.

Isn't that balanced by coming downhill after the ascent?



I have a 2021 LR model, so can't comment on the OP's specific query, but would say that the range estimates are now (on mine at least) much more accurate than they were. If I start a journey with 80% and it says I'll get home with 23% battery remaining, it'll be 23%.

[JonChalk]

NDA said:

Isn't that balanced by coming downhill after the ascent?

The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is really not your friend.....

[page3]

SWoll said:

page3 said:

I have a 2021 SR+.

During last winter I’d say 200 miles, 230 summer. This is erring on the side of caution.

I’ve found altitude changes to be the biggest influence on range, rather than outright speed.

Altitude changes?

Driving uphill is obviously a lot less efficienct than driving down, but speed and weather conditions will always be the biggest influencers surely as only so many miles you can do uphill?

When I visit my mother’s place (about 30 miles away) I get almost twice the efficiency there than I do on the return. Same speed, same weather. If I drive slower (within reason) or in better/worse weather it makes a difference, but nowhere near as much as the geography does.

[mazdajason]

Thanks for your input people, that’s really helpful. Is there a way I can find out if it has the newer LFP battery?

I’m just back a 300 mile trip, exactly 150 each way! Left the house with a full charge yesterday morning with an indicated 236m and arrived at my destination with 47m left. I did have the heating on all the way down.
Tonight on the way home I left with 228m and arrived home with 64 but I must have heating on for all of about 10m as it was much milder so I just used the heated seats.

[CharlieAlphaMike]

mazdajason said:

Thanks for your input people, that’s really helpful. Is there a way I can find out if it has the newer LFP battery?

I’m just back a 300 mile trip, exactly 150 each way! Left the house with a full charge yesterday morning with an indicated 236m and arrived at my destination with 47m left. I did have the heating on all the way down.
Tonight on the way home I left with 228m and arrived home with 64 but I must have heating on for all of about 10m as it was much milder so I just used the heated seats.

LFP batteries only became available in 2022 so if your car is older, it probably doesn't have a LFP battery.

I'm not 100% sure but if you go to the Control panel and check the Software - Additional Information, it should tell you which battery you have.

Also, I think the LFP battery gives you a charging default option of 50% and 100%.

[NDA]

CharlieAlphaMike said:

Also, I think the LFP battery gives you a charging default option of 50% and 100%.

Yep - this bit.

[annodomini2]

CharlieAlphaMike said:

mazdajason said:

Thanks for your input people, that’s really helpful. Is there a way I can find out if it has the newer LFP battery?

I’m just back a 300 mile trip, exactly 150 each way! Left the house with a full charge yesterday morning with an indicated 236m and arrived at my destination with 47m left. I did have the heating on all the way down.
Tonight on the way home I left with 228m and arrived home with 64 but I must have heating on for all of about 10m as it was much milder so I just used the heated seats.

LFP batteries only became available in 2022 so if your car is older, it probably doesn't have a LFP battery.

I'm not 100% sure but if you go to the Control panel and check the Software - Additional Information, it should tell you which battery you have.

Also, I think the LFP battery gives you a charging default option of 50% and 100%.

LFP is Jan 21 for MIC cars.

[VTECMatt]

Done 13k in mine with the LFP battery, 70+ mph speed and hills impacts the range. 210 miles is realistic in winter and once got 300 miles out of it, but this was low speed usually comfortably 230-240 miles in summer days.

[annodomini2]

In addition, the 21 LFP SR+ has a 55kwh LFP battery, the 22 has a 60kwh battery, but less power.

[mazdajason]

Excellent, thanks all. sounds like it won’t be worse range than the Kia which is the main thing.
Shall update mid to end of December when I get it

[Register1]

annodomini2 said:

In addition, the 21 LFP SR+ has a 55kwh LFP battery, the 22 has a 60kwh battery, but less power.

I know the 2022 M3 got the up-sized LFP battery.
But I didn't know it had less power?

[annodomini2]

Register1 said:

annodomini2 said:

In addition, the 21 LFP SR+ has a 55kwh LFP battery, the 22 has a 60kwh battery, but less power.

I know the 2022 M3 got the up-sized LFP battery.
But I didn't know it had less power?

19-21 cars have the 980 rear motor from the performance, 22- have the 970 rear motor from the LR

[mazdajason]

Evening,

Brief update, collected the car on the days inbetween Christmas and new year. It was filthy, so I gave it a quick wash and I’ve covered about 50 miles pottering about town predominantly. Main takeaways are the battery doesn’t t seem to be as good as the Kia but the weather hasn’t been kind so the heating and all toys have been on. It’s a lot wider than I thought too, which has obviously caught the previous driver out as the alloys are very Kerbed.
My 4YO loves the panoramic roof but with the radio down, I can hear wind whistling over it at above 40th, is that normal?
Really just need to spend some more time in it, I’ve a trip to glasgow next week which will give me plenty of time to get properly acquainted on the motorway and test the range.