New (2023) Standard Model 3 range

[Register1]

Hi All,

We read so much about range on electric cars.
The single motor M3 gives best estimates of 275 miles, under gentle driving.

So without battering down the motorway at 70, and simply doing a gentle 60 for example, with just a driver,what sort of miles could one hope for ?

[annodomini2]

Time of year? Very cold the batteries aren't as happy, very hot AC going nuts.

If you're regularly doing long miles, just go for the LR as you're better keeping it in 90-20% region.

[Heres Johnny]

Register1 said:

Hi All,

We read so much about range on electric cars.
The single motor M3 gives best estimates of 275 miles, under gentle driving.

So without battering down the motorway at 70, and simply doing a gentle 60 for example, with just a driver,what sort of miles could one hope for ?

At this time of year, driivng at 60 and less, light throttle, you can do or better the rated figure. Not sure why you quote 2023, but the 2022 Model 3 Rear wheel drive has an LFP battery which you can happily charge to 100% so there's no loss at that end, but for real world use you'd never want to plan on going below 10% range left. I'd say 240 is a sensible number, and in winter drop that to nearer 200.

[Register1]

Heres Johnny said:

Register1 said:

Hi All,

We read so much about range on electric cars.
The single motor M3 gives best estimates of 275 miles, under gentle driving.

So without battering down the motorway at 70, and simply doing a gentle 60 for example, with just a driver,what sort of miles could one hope for ?

At this time of year, driving at 60 and less, light throttle, you can do or better the rated figure. Not sure why you quote 2023, but the 2022 Model 3 Rear wheel drive has an LFP battery which you can happily charge to 100% so there's no loss at that end, but for real world use you'd never want to plan on going below 10% range left. I'd say 240 is a sensible number, and in winter drop that to nearer 200.

Hi thanks,

We only get ours March 23. Model 3 Rear wheel drive
Yes, ours will have the newer LFP battery, so 100% charging.
Wifes car, and drives rather conservatory, motorway cruises at 60.
240 sounds good.

[oldmanbm]

Got mine 15 March to replace much loved E-Golf. Long journeys at around 65 mph on motorway I've seen 280+. I am convinced that with Chill mode and no HiVac 300 is achievable in the summer. It's a great car and had no problems in 4500 miles.

[VTECMatt]

Had mine since beginning of March, I do on average 70 miles a day, I’d lop 10% off as a guesstimate. Mine when new showed 271 miles incidentally, now 270 miles after 6k mileage.

If you start putting your foot down, lights, wipers and AC on it drops. Some days I get the exact mileage but have to try but mostly 10% less.

[Cpb1702]

240 ish with mix of roads and motorway in recent months. Just driving normally. Not too steady or too fast. Great fun if you want to go fast but comfortable for long journeys and loads of space for family holidays. I’ve been converted. Had Mercedes, Porsche, bmw, Land Rover etc. Before.

[Register1]

oldmanbm said:

Got mine 15 March to replace much loved E-Golf. Long journeys at around 65 mph on motorway I've seen 280+. I am convinced that with Chill mode and no HiVac 300 is achievable in the summer. It's a great car and had no problems in 4500 miles.

Nice

[CharlieAlphaMike]

I monitor the % battery, not the mileage so can't tell you how many miles I'm getting from a charge. If you're regularly driving long distances, consider the Long Range model though.

With the new batteries for the latest Model 3, Tesla recommend you charge to 100% once a week which will help with range.

[Heres Johnny]

CharlieAlphaMike said:

I monitor the % battery, not the mileage so can't tell you how many miles I'm getting from a charge. If you're regularly driving long distances, consider the Long Range model though.

With the new batteries for the latest Model 3, Tesla recommend you charge to 100% once a week which will help with range.

Only on the RWD model, the LR and P is still 90%

You also need to switch back to miles, or at least periodically check, as you have no idea when the BMS will need recalibrating and cells rebalancing which could return up to 10% more range if you only look at %.

[CharlieAlphaMike]

Heres Johnny said:

Only on the RWD model, the LR and P is still 90%

You also need to switch back to miles, or at least periodically check, as you have no idea when the BMS will need recalibrating and cells rebalancing which could return up to 10% more range if you only look at %.

True. I should have made it clearer that I was talking about the RWD. I thought the recommendation from Tesla for the LR and P was to charge to 80%?

I didn't know about the recalibration so thanks for the tip

[Itsallicanafford]

^ what’s this, BMS recalibration?

Nobody told me about this on pick up when they chucked the key at me and told me it’s in that tent over there…

[ChocolateFrog]

Probably not relevant but I've noticed on our ID3 that driving at a steady 65mph matches the range estimate.

Anything over and you get significantly less, under and you'll get a bit more.

[greggy50]

I got about 170 - 220 in mine real world depending on the weather and how I drove but it was an early 69 plate car and they have improved since then I believe.

[Heres Johnny]

Itsallicanafford said:

^ what’s this, BMS recalibration?

Nobody told me about this on pick up when they chucked the key at me and told me it’s in that tent over there…

Essentially the Battery Management System (BMS) looks after the battery but will become increasingly more pessimistic as a safety measure unless it has good quality data to tell it otherwise. With many owners never leaving their cars at lower states of charge the BMS can only get stable readings of the battery at higher states of charge. The theory goes if you occassionally leave your car at lower states of charge, say around 30%, over night then the BMS can get some good data points to correct it's pessimism. The consequence is allows the car to predict its capacity better (and show more range is available).

On a related theme, the cells need charging to 100% and left charging beyond that to force the voltages to be similar across all the battery banks. This shouldn;t be done too often but can help correct cell inbalance.

I'm sure the technical aspects of my description aren't great, but every 6 months or so it might be worth following a few simple steps to calibrate the BMS and do the cell balancing. If you don't, no harm will come, but your car will suggest some slow but increasing degradation which isn't real. Accounts I've been told is people having say 310 when new, car drops to 280 over the first year or 2, the calibration stuff gets it back to 300 or so. This is mainly a M3 and MY thing.

The guide on how to do it -> https://tesla-info.com/guide/tesla-bms-calibration...