Model 3 - Performance or Long Range
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Going to be placing an order soon for an Model 3 and trying to figure out if the extra 10K for the performance is worth it? From a look it seems like suspension, red brakes, and different alloys are the main key physical changes. Quicker as well. Guy from work has just got a LR and added the acceleration boost and the thing is a rocket. Would outrun my M4 in straight line speed for that I am certain. The performace model is 0-60 in around 3.1 secs and the LR with boost is 0-60 in around 3.7 secs
Wondering if anyone else pondered over the same thing and what you ended up with? 10K seems a good chunk of change for very little between them, especially after the 1.5K boost is added. Wouldn't be tracking the car btw.
Wondering if anyone else pondered over the same thing and what you ended up with? 10K seems a good chunk of change for very little between them, especially after the 1.5K boost is added. Wouldn't be tracking the car btw.
3.1s is with 1 foot roll out, Tesla do this to heighten the gap between it and the LR which is 0-60 from stationary - so add about 0.2-0.3s to the M3P time. Once on the move they’re also very similar, same sort of punch from 40mph
The suspension is a bit lower but isn’t that different, the brakes aren’t great on any of them, but most the time you use regen to slow down. It’s certainly not like going up a level in day a BMW where the suspension gets genuinely better and the brakes become significantly beefier.
The smaller wheel size is also more forgiving on British roads.
Things like the seats, hifi, trim etc are identical and lateral support on the seats will be very poor compared to what you’re used to.
Those with M3P will usually tell you it’s the one to get, but the smart money is the LR, opt with the tow bar if buying privately and you’ll have a very desirable car when you come to sell.
The suspension is a bit lower but isn’t that different, the brakes aren’t great on any of them, but most the time you use regen to slow down. It’s certainly not like going up a level in day a BMW where the suspension gets genuinely better and the brakes become significantly beefier.
The smaller wheel size is also more forgiving on British roads.
Things like the seats, hifi, trim etc are identical and lateral support on the seats will be very poor compared to what you’re used to.
Those with M3P will usually tell you it’s the one to get, but the smart money is the LR, opt with the tow bar if buying privately and you’ll have a very desirable car when you come to sell.
NDA said:
The LR with the performance upgrade will get you close enough to the performance model.
The performance is getting a few upgrades for 2022. See https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-year...Notably the motors and LG battery from the Model Y Performance. I have a M3P on order for March.
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There's certainly not a huge difference at the moment though.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 7th January 08:37
Both are excellent (LR without boost is still well fast enough for most folk). Suppose it comes down to how you’ll use the car, but ultimately I think the sweet spot in the range in terms of value and performance is a boosted LR. Price gulf used to be less and the Performance made more sense, but you’d have to really want one now to make that choice.
Family Model Y (wife’s car) arrives shortly and I’ve gone LR for that, but will add the boost. She’ll never even notice the extra power is there, but the kids and I will enjoy it.
All that said, for my forthcoming Model S, I’ve chosen Plaid rather than the LR. Completely unnecessary performance when the LR itself is so fast, but whatever.
Family Model Y (wife’s car) arrives shortly and I’ve gone LR for that, but will add the boost. She’ll never even notice the extra power is there, but the kids and I will enjoy it.
All that said, for my forthcoming Model S, I’ve chosen Plaid rather than the LR. Completely unnecessary performance when the LR itself is so fast, but whatever.
What real world range are people getting out of the Long Range? Considering a Model 3 for the missus and we've got a regular 330 mile round trip drive to visit parents / in-laws and ideally would like to do it one charge. If the Long Range can't do it then we might as well save and get the Standard one and accept having to do a top-up charge.
kith said:
What real world range are people getting out of the Long Range? Considering a Model 3 for the missus and we've got a regular 330 mile round trip drive to visit parents / in-laws and ideally would like to do it one charge. If the Long Range can't do it then we might as well save and get the Standard one and accept having to do a top-up charge.
It depends on how you're driving it and the temperature.330 miles would be a stretch. But 165 miles with either a few volts from a supercharger, or an overnight at the in-laws, and it would be fine.
I used to think, before I bought my EV, that you'd need to fill it up to 80% (or more) at every supercharger. But the fact is, that you only really need enough to get you home or to get to the next charger. This means much shorter stops and works fine.
So in your 330 mile example, I reckon, pessimistically, you'd get to the in-laws with an 80 mile range left. You'd find a supercharger near and probably add 130 miles to get you home in the morning.
So in your 330 mile example, I reckon, pessimistically, you'd get to the in-laws with an 80 mile range left. You'd find a supercharger near and probably add 130 miles to get you home in the morning.
I travel from Sunderland to Brighton and in the summer it’s one supercharger on the way down, then a charge down there overnight for running around.
We always fit it in with a toilet/coffee/food stop, never been more than 30 minutes.
The mileage in winter is a lot less, so consider that when you make your choice - the SR will need charging more.
I have zero Regrets about getting the LR and the Supercharger network makes any journey a breeze.
We always fit it in with a toilet/coffee/food stop, never been more than 30 minutes.
The mileage in winter is a lot less, so consider that when you make your choice - the SR will need charging more.
I have zero Regrets about getting the LR and the Supercharger network makes any journey a breeze.
I've had the exact same question. In my case, the cost to get into a M3P vs LR is similar. We have a salary sacrifice scheme and I can get a new M3P (in June) with the enhanced autopilot for a net cost of circa £720 per month. Included in this is insurance + 1 (partner), servicing (the little that there is) and also tyres etc.
Looking at buying myself directly, if I bough from Tesla on a PCP, I'm struggling to get a newish LR for less than £700 per month.
I was ready to go with the LR + Boost but not sure it makes sense here looking at costs, thoughts please?
Thanks
Looking at buying myself directly, if I bough from Tesla on a PCP, I'm struggling to get a newish LR for less than £700 per month.
I was ready to go with the LR + Boost but not sure it makes sense here looking at costs, thoughts please?
Thanks
Chazaxl said:
I've had the exact same question. In my case, the cost to get into a M3P vs LR is similar. We have a salary sacrifice scheme and I can get a new M3P (in June) with the enhanced autopilot for a net cost of circa £720 per month. Included in this is insurance + 1 (partner), servicing (the little that there is) and also tyres etc.
Looking at buying myself directly, if I bough from Tesla on a PCP, I'm struggling to get a newish LR for less than £700 per month.
I was ready to go with the LR + Boost but not sure it makes sense here looking at costs, thoughts please?
Thanks
When there was a 10k difference between them, the P made little sense. Now the gap is much closer and especially if you added AB, the P is the better option unless you need the smaller rims for the extra forgiveness.Looking at buying myself directly, if I bough from Tesla on a PCP, I'm struggling to get a newish LR for less than £700 per month.
I was ready to go with the LR + Boost but not sure it makes sense here looking at costs, thoughts please?
Thanks
Heres Johnny said:
When there was a 10k difference between them, the P made little sense. Now the gap is much closer and especially if you added AB, the P is the better option unless you need the smaller rims for the extra forgiveness.
Thanks. Ive driven my colleagues LR 'around the block' was decent enough. Yet to drive a M3P so not sure what to expect.My current daily is an M6 Comp which I think is a 'decent' ride for what it is - in comfort mode. Sport and Sport Plus is nice for track, smooth road. Any guidance on how the M3P might compare?
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