Tesla unlikely to Survive (Vol. 3)

Tesla unlikely to Survive (Vol. 3)

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Scrump

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22,936 posts

165 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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JD

2,893 posts

235 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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1000 pages and they are still alive.

hyphen

26,262 posts

97 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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A little more than alive!

rampageturke

2,622 posts

169 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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did it need a vol3?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

261 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Lots of rumors 9/12 will be when they go bust

hyphen

26,262 posts

97 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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rampageturke said:
did it need a vol3?
If a Tesla shareholder doesn't have a safe space to humblebrag they may explode wink

ZesPak

24,920 posts

203 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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hyphen said:
If a Tesla shareholder doesn't have a safe space to humblebrag they may explode wink
rofl
Because this thread was created by Tesla shareholders to humble brag. hehe
We've reached new levels of denial.

Smiljan

11,127 posts

204 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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rampageturke said:
did it need a vol3?
Nope but we all like to cover old ground relentlessly and occasionally discuss / moan about something new. I guess Uber could have been removed from the title but now they have a deal with Hertz and Tesla to use Tesla's for Uber I guess it should stay.

They do have a deal right? biggrin

In other news, the top spec Model S can now have brakes that work - for $20000 extra eek They sure know how to milk their loyal customers....

ZesPak

24,920 posts

203 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Smiljan said:
In other news, the top spec Model S can now have brakes that work - for $20000 extra eek They sure know how to milk their loyal customers....
I'm wondering when they were going to do ceramic coating (not full ceramic). I've recently seen a video of a TMS with well over 300k km on the original rotors. Corrosion is more an issue than actual wear.

Why 20k USD though for ceramic brakes? Porsche do them for less than half that on the Taycan (Turbo only).
Sounds to me like you could source those third party much cheaper?

Smiljan

11,127 posts

204 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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The kit is front and rear rotor, calipers, pads, park brake calipers and fluid. No mention of upgraded lines but they may be braided already?

I still suspect the well covered Plaid brake failures are nothing more than ham fisted driving, with 1000+ bhp and a lot of weight to stop you would need to manage the brakes carefully to stop overheating or just the pads being destroyed. Seems like the usual types have just hammered the car relentlessly with zero finesse until the brakes cooked and sent them off into the barriers.

The kit isn't available until Mid 2022 (so 2023 in Tesla time) so it'll be a long wait to see if they're any good for the $20k.

In other news, yet another Tesla self combusts while charging. It's happening so often now, barely anyone bothers commenting

https://6abc.com/maple-glen-pa-car-fire-tesla-mont...

RobbyJ

1,634 posts

229 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Why is Uber more likely to survive than Tesla, and why won't this thread just die. One way or another they will both survive.

Burwood

18,718 posts

253 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Uber really is a POS. Life to date it's lost 25B and no sign of profit. And yet the company is valued at $80B.

Dave Hedgehog

14,686 posts

211 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Smiljan said:
In other news, the top spec Model S can now have brakes that work - for $20000 extra eek They sure know how to milk their loyal customers....
They have no experience / RnD with ceramics so no parts bin to raid cheaply

The plaid is an utter bargain at 120k



ZesPak

24,920 posts

203 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Dave Hedgehog said:
The plaid is an utter bargain at 120k
hehe

Iirc in the US it's in the top 10 of horsepower/$, with the others mainly being American muscle cars.

From a performance stand point, especially here in Europe, it's almost unbeatable.

Scrump

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165 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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CheesecakeRunner said:
rampageturke said:
did it need a vol3?
At least drop Uber from the thread title. It’s pure Tesla now.
I did wonder about that.
Is the consensus that this is just about Tesla now?

Dave Hedgehog

14,686 posts

211 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Scrump said:
I did wonder about that.
Is the consensus that this is just about Tesla now?
its been 99% Tesla for a very long time

Sandy Munro released a video with a lot of interesting stats on how Tesla is going to be very strong in the US market but the Chinese are going to dominate like the Japanese did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g63SJwFdGTQ

and holy jebus at VW being 260 billion in debt !!

Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Thursday 25th November 16:07

Burwood

18,718 posts

253 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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VW debt is a non event. It's the financial services arm. They could sell it off if they wanted to but it makes money. Same with Ford and GM. Stories like this are written by people that don't have a clue about accounting. BMW has 100b

Scrump

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22,936 posts

165 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Dave Hedgehog said:
Scrump said:
I did wonder about that.
Is the consensus that this is just about Tesla now?
its been 99% Tesla for a very long time
Does it make sense to remove Uber from the title and move this thread to the Tesla section, or just leave it as it?

TheRainMaker

6,623 posts

249 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Scrump said:
Does it make sense to remove Uber from the title and move this thread to the Tesla section, or just leave it as it?
Remove Uber, if you want to let this thread fade away move it to the Tesla section, no one really goes in there whistle

skwdenyer

17,958 posts

247 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Burwood said:
VW debt is a non event. It's the financial services arm. They could sell it off if they wanted to but it makes money. Same with Ford and GM. Stories like this are written by people that don't have a clue about accounting. BMW has 100b
It is it not only a non-event so long as values of used ICE cars stay up? All those deals built around projected future values.