Quality of Tesla 'Basic' Autopilot function
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I'm on my second Model 3 LR, now six weeks old. It's good - much better than my first in many ways but my reservations about the quality of the 'Autopilot' function for driving in the UK remain. On motorways when in Lane 2 or 3 it sometimes brakes without warning for no reason (shadows?) which can be properly dangerous if someone is right up your a**e. On single carriageway roads it is barely fit for purpose, braking to walking pace for parked cars, fast into corners, slow out etc etc, so I find I just stop using it after a while. Does anyone else find this?
I see that Tesla now offer 'Enhanced Autopilot' as an extra for £3,400, but I wouldn't pay a penny for that on the current performance of the 'Basic' system. And as for 'Full Self Driving', well, I do wonder if it will ever work properly . . .
I see that Tesla now offer 'Enhanced Autopilot' as an extra for £3,400, but I wouldn't pay a penny for that on the current performance of the 'Basic' system. And as for 'Full Self Driving', well, I do wonder if it will ever work properly . . .
Yep this is "phantom braking" and it's present on traffic aware cruise control as well as the paid for autopilot upgrades.
It's properly intolerable and a major factor in me thinking about moving on my M3P after only 14 months. That and the fact that I only get 160 miles 90-10% and no, I dont drive like a tw*t. And the constant bonging when it sees another car half parked in my lane (they don't do that in the States, apparently). And the stupid keycard.
It's such a shame because its so quick and handles nicely
It's properly intolerable and a major factor in me thinking about moving on my M3P after only 14 months. That and the fact that I only get 160 miles 90-10% and no, I dont drive like a tw*t. And the constant bonging when it sees another car half parked in my lane (they don't do that in the States, apparently). And the stupid keycard.
It's such a shame because its so quick and handles nicely
RobDickinson said:
It'll go away once they shift over to vision only, which is only in the US for now.
I'm not so sure about that - UK and European roads and driving habits are so fundamentally different to American ones. I do wonder if an Adaptive Cruise system needs to have been developed this side of the pond to work properly here. For example the Audi one is way better than Tesla's but it still tends to require you to change from Lane 2 to Lane 3 annoyingly early to avoid it dropping from the chosen speed.runnerbean 14 said:
I'm not so sure about that - UK and European roads and driving habits are so fundamentally different to American ones. I do wonder if an Adaptive Cruise system needs to have been developed this side of the pond to work properly here. For example the Audi one is way better than Tesla's but it still tends to require you to change from Lane 2 to Lane 3 annoyingly early to avoid it dropping from the chosen speed.
The reason for it is because the radar lacks context and cant really deal with some objects (bridges, armco etc), this doesnt apply to visionrunnerbean 14 said:
On motorways when in Lane 2 or 3 it sometimes brakes without warning for no reason (shadows?) which can be properly dangerous if someone is right up your a**e. On single carriageway roads it is barely fit for purpose, braking to walking pace for parked cars, fast into corners, slow out etc etc, so I find I just stop using it after a while. Does anyone else find this?
Yes, exactly the same here. And I don’t hold out much hope of the next version being better, Tesla are the masters of making promises they don’t keep.runnerbean 14 said:
I'm not so sure about that - UK and European roads and driving habits are so fundamentally different to American ones. I do wonder if an Adaptive Cruise system needs to have been developed this side of the pond to work properly here. For example the Audi one is way better than Tesla's but it still tends to require you to change from Lane 2 to Lane 3 annoyingly early to avoid it dropping from the chosen speed.
God, I hope the ACC in my incoming M3 is better that that in my A7 - it was s
t compared the pilot assist in my previous S90, which while not perfect, was fantastic.FWIW said:
God, I hope the ACC in my incoming M3 is better that that in my A7 - it was st compared the pilot assist in my previous S90, which while not perfect, was fantastic.
The cruise in the M3 is much, much worse than the system fitted to my old Golf R, which (with radar alone) never phantom braked, didnt dilly dally about getting back up to speed, wasn't programmed to cut speed on sweeping bends, and wouldn't crap its pants on A roads. Though it did once shut down when a bumble bee the size of a golfball got squashed on the sensor. t compared the pilot assist in my previous S90, which while not perfect, was fantastic.Candida said:
The cruise in the M3 is much, much worse than the system fitted to my old Golf R, which (with radar alone) never phantom braked, didnt dilly dally about getting back up to speed, wasn't programmed to cut speed on sweeping bends, and wouldn't crap its pants on A roads. Though it did once shut down when a bumble bee the size of a golfball got squashed on the sensor.
Went through Germany in a Passat, it was a horrific experience with the system freaking out every time we encountered road works tbh.Gassing Station | Tesla | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff