Where is the £30K model 3?
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In the US, it was supposedly $30k, and they are still waiting. They are selling every one of them even at the higher prices. The Model Y will be even more expensive, although not by much apparently. The stock market is already saying the Model 3 is cannibalising sales of the more expensive, and higher margin, X & S, so it makes no sense to drop the price sub £/$30k anytime soon.
Fastlane said:
In the US, it was supposedly $30k, and they are still waiting.
It was actually originally quoted at $35K, not $30K, and a version was briefly available to order, in-store, not on-line, for $35.9K. That version is still available, in-store, but has gone up about $1500. The SR+ is another $2500, and the market has decided it's worth the extra $$$.Zcd1 said:
It was actually originally quoted at $35K, not $30K, and a version was briefly available to order, in-store, not on-line, for $35.9K. That version is still available, in-store, but has gone up about $1500. The SR+ is another $2500, and the market has decided it's worth the extra $$$.
The original "affordable" Tesla/Model E was quoted as $30k, see here:2008: https://www.engadget.com/2008/06/30/tesla-motors-e...
2011: https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1053971_tesla...
2013: https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/156959-elon-mu...
2014: https://www.geek.com/news/tesla-will-launch-a-3000...
Zcd1 said:
Fastlane said:
In the US, it was supposedly $30k, and they are still waiting.
It was actually originally quoted at $35K, not $30K, and a version was briefly available to order, in-store, not on-line, for $35.9K. That version is still available, in-store, but has gone up about $1500. The SR+ is another $2500, and the market has decided it's worth the extra $$$.Fastlane said:
In the US, it was supposedly $30k, and they are still waiting.
It was suppose to be $27.5K after the $7.5K federal incentive, no one in the US paid $27.5K for a Model not even close as by the time the 'cheap' SR Model 3 came on sale Tesla had way passed the 200K federal incentive limit for each brand, current its just $1,750, and will disappear next year. https://www.wired.com/2016/03/sorry-dont-expect-te...
According to a tear down by a German company, forget who but I heard it on a podcast that featured that sandy Monroe guy, Tesla could make the 30k model 3 but they’d need to be hitting production of 10k/week to do it.
Then again the likes of vw will hit such numbers on their ID3... and that isn’t going to be 30k either.
Then again the likes of vw will hit such numbers on their ID3... and that isn’t going to be 30k either.
Why sell them for less than they can get for every one they build?
Once they build large numbers and need to compete, the prices may change, relatively.
EVs in total are still a very small part of the overall market which is likely to remain so until general costs fall.
We don’t all have degrees in man-maths.
Once they build large numbers and need to compete, the prices may change, relatively.
EVs in total are still a very small part of the overall market which is likely to remain so until general costs fall.
We don’t all have degrees in man-maths.
It was cancelled. Even in the US they don't sell it, and they never even started manufacturing them. The few that have been delivered are higher spec models with a few bits disabled and they really hate selling them.
In the UK the cheapest one is over £40 all said and done (including luxury car tax).
Basically Tesla failed to hit their price point goal and gave up.
In the UK the cheapest one is over £40 all said and done (including luxury car tax).
Basically Tesla failed to hit their price point goal and gave up.
kuro68k said:
It was cancelled. Even in the US they don't sell it, and they never even started manufacturing them. The few that have been delivered are higher spec models with a few bits disabled and they really hate selling them.
In the UK the cheapest one is over £40 all said and done (including luxury car tax).
Basically Tesla failed to hit their price point goal and gave up.
Ah! In the UK the cheapest one is over £40 all said and done (including luxury car tax).
Basically Tesla failed to hit their price point goal and gave up.
It was a figure of $35k when announced in March 2016, which was reported as "sub £30k" (some saying mid-20s) by the UK press. £1 = $1.45 then. It's $1.28 now, and been as low as $1.20 recently.
Bit more on the $35k version here: https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/12/18307583/tesla-...
I think the $35k one is still available in the US but they don't make it easy to buy. It's exactly the same as the $37k one but with a software locked battery pack.
Bit more on the $35k version here: https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/12/18307583/tesla-...
I think the $35k one is still available in the US but they don't make it easy to buy. It's exactly the same as the $37k one but with a software locked battery pack.
kuro68k said:
It was cancelled. Even in the US they don't sell it...
This is not true. $35,400 is the price of the current entry-level Model 3, available for purchase only by visiting a Tesla store, as verified by my Tesla sales adviser 3 minutes ago.
In the end though it doesn't really matter, because the value proposition isn't there when compared to the SR+.
Edited by Zcd1 on Wednesday 23 October 16:37
SWoll said:
You must be looking in the wrong place. SR+ is £38,500 after the government grant.
The new Corsa-E is an almost £30k car so should be no surprise the Model 3 didn't manage it.
Looking in the wrong place lol, Musk promised a $35k model 3 and the cheapest is nowhere near that. £42k in the UK or circa $54k. The new Corsa-E is an almost £30k car so should be no surprise the Model 3 didn't manage it.
Or are you saying Musk never said there would be a $35k model 3? Quite what it has to do with a Corsa, I also have no idea.
DragonflyTrumpeter said:
Looking in the wrong place lol, Musk promised a $35k model 3 and the cheapest is nowhere near that. £42k in the UK or circa $54k.
Or are you saying Musk never said there would be a $35k model 3? Quite what it has to do with a Corsa, I also have no idea.
What? You can literally order the $35k model3 in the USA right now. It's just not available in the UK. Why do they need to sell it here when they can't meet the UK demand anyway?Or are you saying Musk never said there would be a $35k model 3? Quite what it has to do with a Corsa, I also have no idea.
Maybe you will see it next year if their sales drop in the UK but right now they sell every single car they make at the higher prices so I doubt you'll see a cheaper one any time soon in the UK.
jjwilde said:
What? You can literally order the $35k model3 in the USA right now. It's just not available in the UK. Why do they need to sell it here when they can't meet the UK demand anyway?
Maybe you will see it next year if their sales drop in the UK but right now they sell every single car they make at the higher prices so I doubt you'll see a cheaper one any time soon in the UK.
Granted, you can order the wheelbarrow version model 3 with zero options for $39,500 in the USA just now. My apologies for quoting UK prices to the UK resident op.Maybe you will see it next year if their sales drop in the UK but right now they sell every single car they make at the higher prices so I doubt you'll see a cheaper one any time soon in the UK.
I should take more care with my lies, like Mr Musk. And yourself, obviously.
DragonflyTrumpeter said:
SWoll said:
You must be looking in the wrong place. SR+ is £38,500 after the government grant.
The new Corsa-E is an almost £30k car so should be no surprise the Model 3 didn't manage it.
Looking in the wrong place lol, Musk promised a $35k model 3 and the cheapest is nowhere near that. £42k in the UK or circa $54k. The new Corsa-E is an almost £30k car so should be no surprise the Model 3 didn't manage it.
Or are you saying Musk never said there would be a $35k model 3? Quite what it has to do with a Corsa, I also have no idea.
SWoll said:
So, just to clarify, if I chose to buy the cheapest Model 3 available in the UK today would I pay £38,500, £42,000 or £45,000 (+ £990 admin fees)?
The current cash price is £38,500 after the grant, which is applied by the manufacturer/dealer.Just a wild thought - try going on Tesla.com and having a look? Takes 30 seconds to base spec a Model 3 and see price, if that.
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