Model X after 2 years and 28k.

[gangzoom]

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There seems to be some concerns about Tesla build quality/ageing so I thought I share how our X has got on as the main family car.

The X is now 2 years old and done just shy of 28K in that time.



Daily commute is 10 miles, the majority of trips are weekend family trips/holidays etc.

The interior of the car is hardly worn, even with white seats and accommodating a toddler daily and extended family every few weeks.







Exterior cannot say I’ve noticed any more stone chips than what’s expected, and overall am surprised at the lack of even parking dings etc. For a 6 seater family wagon it doesn’t look half bad especially with black wheels.





The car has however been back to Tesla for various issues picked up at delivery, this is the list I noticed shortly after delivery. For some bizzar reason Tesla choose to short these issues out one at a time rather than one big service visit, which meant lost of wasted Service/Loaner time from Tesla.

• 1: Boot not shutting without alarm.

• 2: Steering wheel damaged needed to be replaced.

• 3: Drivers seat 'rocking' needed to be replaced.

• 4: Very loud rattle from drivers A pillar needed A pillar rebuild.

• 5: Wipers not aligned.

• 6: Door sensors not the most uptodate, prevented software updates, needed to be replaced.

• 7: Both sun visors rattled and needed to be replaced.[/list]

Since these issues have been sorted the car has been fine, the last issues is the ‘yellow glue band’ around the 17inch touch screen which I believe is still an issue with many cars been made today. Am told Tesla have a fix coming but its not ready yet, the band doesn’t effect the use of the screen but you can see it at the top of the screen. Tesla have told me there will be a more permanent fix at some point in the future.



In addition I’ve have had the HEPA filter and CCS retrofit done by Tesla, both were pretty reasonably priced and done by a mobile range rather than me having to visit the service center. I’ve also swapped out the front speakers for some Focal units which have really improved mid-range sound quality.

Overall our car has functioned perfectly as the main family car, I see very little reason to swap it for a while yet, the car hasn’t been 100% perfect but since the delivery issues have been sorted visits the service center has been few and far between. There’s no rattles or noises.

The main warranty on the car runs out at 50K/4 years, the battery/motor is under warranty for 8 years. I’ll probably pay the £3300 Alliance wants for the extended Tesla warranty shortly as I can see us keeping this car for a while longer yet, and long term wise I think the overall reliability will be better than my old BMW but not close to my wifes Lexus which has had 0 issues in nearly 5 years.

I have no worries about keeping the car till 2025 especially with an extended warranty, its the only car I've owned that I consider a 'keeper'. It's not perfect, but no car is, considering the X is only 2nd car Tesla produced its pretty good effort.

By the sounds of some Model 3 delivery issues, Tesla appears to still not have learnt delivering a fault free product at handover saves them a whole load of follow up time, but as for the final product, I have no complaints.

Edited by gangzoom on Sunday 13th September 07:54

Edited by gangzoom on Sunday 24th September 20:08

[WonkeyDonkey]

Ooof 28,000 miles of baby shark.

I've had to ban that in my household!

[Dave Hedgehog]

WonkeyDonkey said:

Ooof 28,000 miles of baby shark.

I've had to ban that in my household!

I enjoyed greatly teaching the grand kid it, then going home leaving mum to suffer lol

[hyphen]

Is that warranty price of £3,300 per year?

[gangzoom]

hyphen said:

Is that warranty price of £3,300 per year?

For 4 years and 50k, so £825 a year if you can make it last 4 years. So about the same as a BMW extended warranty for a M3 etc.

[hyphen]

gangzoom said:

hyphen said:

Is that warranty price of £3,300 per year?

For 4 years and 50k, so £825 a year if you can make it last 4 years. So about the same as a BMW extended warranty for a M3 etc.

Thanks, sounds a lot better!

Sounds reasonable, although a little surprising that equivalent to BMW M, as contradicts the 'evs are simpler and lower maintenance' messages put across.

[Witchfinder]

Nice, thanks for the information. I'm still not 100% decided on the Polestar 2, and may end up in a CPO Model S or X around the middle of next year (hopefully a CPO car would have had all the niggles sorted out, and will come with 4 year warranty).

I especially like the white interior, that makes it look very bright and modern.

[lost in espace]

My mates X has got some terrible paint wear down to the metal about the size of a 50p where the falcon wing doors close. Otherwise it looks pretty good, its a 60 I think. Hoping to buy it at the end of his PCP.

[Turn7]

Its still as ugly as sin tho....

[RobDickinson]

Turn7 said:

Its still as ugly as sin tho....

Yeah your right the competition nailed it..

[Heres Johnny]

hyphen said:

gangzoom said:

hyphen said:

Is that warranty price of £3,300 per year?

For 4 years and 50k, so £825 a year if you can make it last 4 years. So about the same as a BMW extended warranty for a M3 etc.

Thanks, sounds a lot better!

Sounds reasonable, although a little surprising that equivalent to BMW M, as contradicts the 'evs are simpler and lower maintenance' messages put across.

Don’t forget the battery and motors are already covered under the manufacturers warranty to 8 years, this is “just” for everything else.

[Turn7]

RobDickinson said:

Turn7 said:

Its still as ugly as sin tho....

Yeah your right the competition nailed it..

Even worse ! I dont think comsetics are important any more - its more a case how much more angry looking and agrressive can we make it ?

I despise modern stuff, and "keeping up with the jones'" type motors even more.

[RobDickinson]

Turn7 said:

Even worse ! I dont think comsetics are important any more - its more a case how much more angry looking and agrressive can we make it ?

I despise modern stuff, and "keeping up with the jones'" type motors even more.

X looks pretty inoffensive I think, its not that attractive but its a 7 seater suv/mpv thing with really good aero so what do you expect..

[Witchfinder]

RobDickinson said:

X looks pretty inoffensive I think, its not that attractive but its a 7 seater suv/mpv thing with really good aero so what do you expect..

I've owned two Ford S-Maxes, and I've always liked the shape and form factor of that kind of car - great practicality, and it's certainly less offensive than hulking SUVs, lumpy pickups, and bland hatchbacks.

[gangzoom]

hyphen said:

Thanks, sounds a lot better!

Sounds reasonable, although a little surprising that equivalent to BMW M, as contradicts the 'evs are simpler and lower maintenance' messages put across.

Not actually worried about any mechanical bits, but with main dealer labour rates of £150/hr+VAT than imported parts from the US, it woudlnt take a lot to generate a massive bill.

Got a while to decide yet though, but £850/year isn't much to pay in the grand scheme of things.

[RobDickinson]

Model X is a seriously complicated car regardless of its drive train.

[gangzoom]

lost in espace said:

its a 60 I think. Hoping to buy it at the end of his PCP.

The 60 was a great buy, pick of the range. Same battery as a 75D but over £6k cheaper at the time. Real life range 99% of the time was the same as a 75D as you can charge it to 100% daily and it was the same as a 75D been charged to 85%.

Overall I seem to remember is was nearly 50% cheaper than the top spec P100D L at the time - around £60k, absolute bargain when you consider the only difference between the two cars was the 0-60 time and about 80 miles of range.

[gangzoom]

Turn7 said:

Its still as ugly as sin tho....

Its a family bus, my main view everyday from the drivers seat is actually pretty amazing.

My daughter loves napping in the car, so I spend ALOT of time staring out of that windscreen, to my surprise the powered doors and the view the windscreen provides are the two things I would find hard giving up.

I toyed with the idea of selling up and going over to a Performance 3 - space we could probably manage now, but giving up that view and having to go back to manual doors is hard to do, especially when those features get used all the time, where as a crazy 0-60 time and more range far less often.

I would consider moving to P100D L though once second hand prices take more effect. Its a shame Tesla have really scaled down the feature set on Y, which at one point I think was also going to have powered doors/massive windscreen.

Still really cannot grumble when the family bus offers views like this .

[xjay1337]

Heres Johnny said:

hyphen said:

gangzoom said:

hyphen said:

Is that warranty price of £3,300 per year?

For 4 years and 50k, so £825 a year if you can make it last 4 years. So about the same as a BMW extended warranty for a M3 etc.

Thanks, sounds a lot better!

Sounds reasonable, although a little surprising that equivalent to BMW M, as contradicts the 'evs are simpler and lower maintenance' messages put across.

Don’t forget the battery and motors are already covered under the manufacturers warranty to 8 years, this is “just” for everything else.

When you put it like that, it seems a rip off.

The interior barely has anything, it's just some seats and trim. the rest is done in the infotainment system.

Either they are making it expensive because it's an expensive car. Or they are saying they have no faith im their work!

[gangzoom]

xjay1337 said:

When you put it like that, it seems a rip off.

The interior barely has anything, it's just some seats and trim. the rest is done in the infotainment system.

Either they are making it expensive because it's an expensive car. Or they are saying they have no faith im their work!

The Media control unit is £3k replacement out of warranty, that seems like a lot but Lexus wants a similar amount for replacing the media unit in a IS300H.

Tesla are no worse than BMW/Audi/Merc, but reliability is poor compared to Lexus/Honda/Nissan.

As always the extended warranty is how risk averse you are. In a Lexus/Honda/Nissan your essentially throwing your money away, in a BMW I would you say your foolish not to take one. In the Tesla I personally still haven't decided.

On reflection though paying £3k for essentially 8 years/100k warranty on a £71k car seems pretty reasonable. If it was a Lexus I wouldn't bother but its not a Lexus.

But reliability isn't the sole determinant of a car for me, if it was I would just get a RX. I've experienced nothing in our X so far thats put me off longterm ownership, it is still however early days, which is why an extended warranty is been considered.

Edited by gangzoom on Monday 2nd September 06:44

Edited by gangzoom on Monday 2nd September 06:45