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topboss

Original Poster:

354 posts

260 months

Sunday 25th April 2004
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Is anyone aware of any "competition" tyres similar to the Cup tyres used on the CSL's that are available for the Noble.

Also, is it normal to kill (totally!) a set of pads in just one track day + 2.5K road miles?

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

266 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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Loads avaliable, I'm still deciding between Yokohama 048R or Avon ZZR, just waiting for a couple of people to do reports on them.

What pads have you got?

topboss

Original Poster:

354 posts

260 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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Car is currently "out of the box" spec. Going in tomorrow for some warrenty work so I may have the "track" pads fitted and possibly the brake mods as well.

Then just looking at some more "track" orientated tyres. Was at the Gold track driving Donington day and almost everyone in the top group was running either full slicks or "cup type" tyres. Noble still held it's own though! Coming down the back straight at 130 with the brake warning light coming on wasn't good though!

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

266 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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Avon ZZR's seem to be very, very good but very soft so I'm not convinced they will last long on road (see Paul Cundys report in the mailing list archives), the Yokos also sound like they improve grip levels massively (not to the levels of the Avons from what I've heard) and I think they'll last longer as they are harder than the Avons (see Kevin Jones post on the nobleownersclub forum - ask Jools for access if you don't yet have it)

kj-r

1,877 posts

258 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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topboss,

You mention the brake warning light coming on ! l didn't think there was any sensor on the AP racing pads fitted to the cars, mine certainly hasn't, do you think it might have been the handbrake light ?

I use DS2500 pads but you have to expect shorter disc life.

Kevin

SteveJT

77 posts

278 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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The brake warning light could also mean low brake fluid level. Worth checking out.
Steve

ashleyw@sicl.co.

3,836 posts

248 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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If the break fluid level warning light is coming on, could be caused by the pads wearing, the less pad, the more the break calliper pistons need to travel, means use more fluid.

Also sounds about right to use a set of pads in 2.5 to 3 k miles if you really push hard and a track day to boot.

I believe the only difference between track day pads and road pads is the way they are made, i.e., lots of heat applied to track day pads to get rid of the gasses, this then eliminates a lot of the break fade.

Only a novice so please, no one shout at me if the above is incorrect.

topboss

Original Poster:

354 posts

260 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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Warning light was coming on every time the brake pedal was pressed. Checked fluid and pads, fluid seemed ok but pads were very warn. Luckily I'd already booked the car in for tomorrow for some warrenty work.....will get them to address the issue and fit some other pads/fluid etc.

It's not until you get these things onto the track that you really get to appreciate the skill/time put into making it handle/flow as well as it does. The car simply spits out everything you throw at it and just asks for more!

Micknall

826 posts

256 months

Friday 30th April 2004
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After extensive testing, we have selected Pirelli P-Zero Corsas (the race-orientated ones) for the M400. However, this does have different dampers and spring settings, which will also affect the dynamics of the car.

The ZZR's are great in many respects (sidewall stiffness and steering feel) but fall way behind the Corsas when it comes to absolute grip.

I still rate the SO-3s on the standard car. Bags of feel in the dry, and cannot be beaten in the wet by anything that I've tried.

goodlife

1,852 posts

266 months

Friday 30th April 2004
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Micknall said:
After extensive testing, we have selected Pirelli P-Zero Corsas (the race-orientated ones) for the M400
I can envisage endless trackdays after trackdays. The sole intention of getting it to/beyond the limit when someone else is paying for the tyres. You lucky b@stard

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

266 months

Friday 30th April 2004
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Hi Simon - You'd recommend the ZZR over the Yokos then? Result for me as it'll save me £150 for the set