Surfeit of used cars?

Surfeit of used cars?

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MisterX

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656 posts

257 months

Monday 8th March 2004
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I see there are THREE second hand Nobles being advertised in the Sunday Times this week. Usually there are none, or one, or max of two. Is this a record, and is there a particular reason for putting them on the market now?

mustard

6,992 posts

252 months

Monday 8th March 2004
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Its the spring (well nearly)... everyone comes out to play and wants a new sportscar!

amg merc

11,954 posts

260 months

Monday 8th March 2004
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MisterX said:
I see there are THREE second hand Nobles being advertised in the Sunday Times this week. Usually there are none, or one, or max of two. Is this a record, and is there a particular reason for putting them on the market now?



... FYI, all three were older models (ie: no 3Rs) but there are a few 3Rs on this site! I think that by spring (very soon!) when the Autoglym comes out men's (and some ladies?!) thoughts turn to all things motoring the second-hand M12 market will change for the better (ie: there won't be any available!).

mustard

6,992 posts

252 months

Monday 8th March 2004
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Sensibly priced they soon move... only seems to be a glut (3 cars or so in PH Classifieds) of 3R's with people wanting close to retail for private sales IMHO

DanH

12,287 posts

267 months

Monday 8th March 2004
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What could Noble do to protect residuals though? I'm guessing less changes would be a good start, and potentially controlling the prices by buying cars back (as per Caterham).

The residuals are a looking a bit scarey =/ On the plus side I'll be able to afford one once the worst has been done.

mustard

6,992 posts

252 months

Monday 8th March 2004
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Where people get this idea residuals are scary?

M12 GTO 2.5ltrs were circa. £46k new (the first cars are now nearly two years old) and the cheapest you'll find second hand are around £32-33k (privatly)

M12 GTO 3.0ltrs were circa £48k. new and 12mths old sell for around £42k-£45k (retail)

I think you'll find these losses are similar if not better than most other £40-£50k cars ie. Jaguar XK8/XKR, Maserati 4200GT, BMW M3 even the Porsche 911



>> Edited by mustard on Monday 8th March 21:19

DanH

12,287 posts

267 months

Monday 8th March 2004
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Was 46 new including options? Just goes to show how much the cars gone up in price!

joust

14,622 posts

266 months

Monday 8th March 2004
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Work it out...

I paid £48k for mine as car no. 26.

If you want to sell in a fools market you'll get the price based on that - if you create a relationship with your dealer and pass the risk onto a finance company you can actually do it for "0 incremental cost" (hence my TS500 mid term without 'trading in' my Noble coupled with the smooth transition to a GTC with no change in my leaverage)

*warning* cue the finance vs cash thread yet again

J

>> Edited by joust on Monday 8th March 23:31

DanH

12,287 posts

267 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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Yeah deja vu time I seem to remember coming to the conclusion that your strategy involved the finance company not having a clue and you being a merciless bastard?

joust

14,622 posts

266 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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Err - something like that - but more subtle I'd like to think. But of course it's not for everyone!

J

ashp

222 posts

265 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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another delivery mileage 3R in the For Sale section at a little under list...

ibroker

658 posts

265 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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Joust

What deal exactly did you get on your car. I like to weigh up the finance against outright purchasse options.

Interested to see your figures for risk transfer on the depreciation

Fell free to mail me off board if you dont want it public

joust

14,622 posts

266 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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YHM.

J

ibroker

658 posts

265 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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ashp said:
another delivery mileage 3R in the For Sale section at a little under list...


That was an expensive 250 miles for whoever bought that.

Anyone here care to admitt it!!

amg merc

11,954 posts

260 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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ibroker said:

ashp said:
another delivery mileage 3R in the For Sale section at a little under list...



That was an expensive 250 miles for whoever bought that.

Anyone here care to admitt it!!


... not me, not yet!!! I like the way the dealer is marketing it though.