A supercharged noble?

A supercharged noble?

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hiens1

Original Poster:

191 posts

249 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2004
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Is Noble ever going to produce their own engine? I've heard rumors that they are thinking of making a 700HP supercharged V6. Can anyone give me any info?

>>> Edited by hiens1 on Tuesday 2nd March 22:22

V6GTO

11,579 posts

249 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2004
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Probably wishful thinking. They simply do'nt have the resources to undertake such a project(YET). I'de love it if someone could prove me wrong though. M.

shadowninja

77,497 posts

289 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2004
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Yeah they are a bit slow.








sorry not constructive at all i know :P

V6GTO

11,579 posts

249 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2004
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It's nothing to do with being slow, you could never accuse Lee or the factory of that. It probably has something to do with walking before you can run. And where would they get the millions it would take to set uf an engine factory? It would be nice though...700bhp...dribble...

DanH

12,287 posts

267 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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I think its fairly safe to say that such a beast would be utterly undriveable Be interested to see a v6 that could develop 700bhp too!

micknall

826 posts

256 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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We have no plans to build a 700bhp supercharged engine. Sorry!

hiens1

Original Poster:

191 posts

249 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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man.... but it is possible. If the n/a engin produces ove 300hp a supercharger can push it over 700hp. They usally increase the engines hp by 400hp. I wonder what a quad turbo could do?

V6GTO

11,579 posts

249 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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Heins, believe me, the n/a version of this engine does NOT produce over 300bhp!. It takes the twin turbos with cams and valves changed to get it to 352bhp and the 430bhp mule is starting to push the boundries. A supercharger change alone is no way good for doubling the bhp figure on ANY engine. But we can dream...(and I often do) but I honestly think that kind of hoarsepower is only achievable with an engine swap. A 357ci smallblock Chevy with Nitrous oxide would be my choice. I can hear it now.... Martin.

matt_t16

3,402 posts

256 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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hiens1 said:
I wonder what a quad turbo could do?



Increase weight, plumbing and complexity without offering any gain in performance, due to the relatively low boost they run the pair of T25's are more than sufficent to provide the required level of boost with the minimum of lag and TBH without spending big money you'd be unlikely to improve on them.

Think of it this way. In order to raise boost and maintain airflow (and therefore increase power output) you need a bigger turbo, no two ways about it, in order to flow enough air at a higher boost level they have to be physicaly larger. This adds's weight and increases lag as there is more rotational mass that has to spin before it reaches a velocity at which a posistive charge pressure is being produced. So you might be able to pull 500bhp out of the engine with a combination of stronger internals, larger turbos and sufficent fueling but around any sort of complex track the car will be slower and considerably less fun and productive to drive. IMHO its the point and squirtiness of the Noble that makes it what it is (and the ability to point and squirt around some bloody tight corners ) and to ruin this is to ruin a (very) important part the car.

Regards
Matt

>> Edited by matt_t16 on Wednesday 3rd March 22:09

joust

14,622 posts

266 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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Heins.

Stop talking bo****xs. I'm sure someone in the "my Focus RS could push 600bhp" will want to talk to you.

J

V6GTO

11,579 posts

249 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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lol @ Joust.

hiens1

Original Poster:

191 posts

249 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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lol
k
Sorry bout that last post. lol I wasn't thinking at all when i posted it. i's pretty tierd and was thinking bout' TVR with the Speed six. Heres the specs

Specification
Engine: 6-cylinder inline alloy engine with 4 valves per cylinder and dry sump lubrication.

Capacity:
3605 cc

Max Power:
350 bhp @ 7200 rpm

Max torque:
290 ft.lbs @ 5500 rpm

I've also heard of people adding a supercharger and doubling the hp but with other engine mods as well. oh yah the speed six is a straight six.

hiens1

Original Poster:

191 posts

249 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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V6GTO said:
Heins, believe me, the n/a version of this engine does NOT produce over 300bhp!. It takes the twin turbos with cams and valves changed to get it to 352bhp and the 430bhp mule is starting to push the boundries.


also i didn't mean Noble current engin sorry 'bout the mixup. I ment a new engin.

LaurenceFrost

691 posts

259 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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hiens1 said:
lol
k
Sorry bout that last post. lol I wasn't thinking at all when i posted it. i's pretty tierd and was thinking bout' TVR with the Speed six. Heres the specs

Specification
Engine: 6-cylinder inline alloy engine with 4 valves per cylinder and dry sump lubrication.

Capacity:
3605 cc

Max Power:
350 bhp @ 7200 rpm

Max torque:
290 ft.lbs @ 5500 rpm

I've also heard of people adding a supercharger and doubling the hp but with other engine mods as well. oh yah the speed six is a straight six.

Do you think it's as easy as buying a supercharger and away you go?

If so the link below is for you.
Click Me

DanH

12,287 posts

267 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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Oh thanks Laurence. I clicked your link and got to meet 'Jade'. If you click on the pic you can read her bio. Really classy lass!

LaurenceFrost

691 posts

259 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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Isn't she just. The sort of girl you would want to introduce your parents to immediately.

She's wearing more 'bling' than Mr T from the A-Team!!!

LOL

hiens1

Original Poster:

191 posts

249 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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Actually............ no. Nothings ever as easy as it sounds.