RE: AMG Merc's Noble M12 GTO 3R

[carlos sultanos]

yeah, wise to order without wing... from a purely asthetic point of view.

[pesty]

I like the look with the wing But have to say havnt seen one without.
Any pics anywhere wingless?

[Stuart]

Wouldn't ordering without a wing have a rather dramatic effect on rear end grip?

[m12_nathan]

Indeed Stuart - Someone took theirs off at brunters and said the car was far more nervous round the corner onto the straight but got about 10mph more. I'd take the grip thanks!

[amg merc]

Here you go - and I still seem to be having trouble seeing out of the back!!!

http://images.fotopic.net/?id=653990&outx=600&oq=0

http://images.fotopic.net/?id=653988&outx=600&oq=0

[actech]

These are a couple from my site at Octobers VMAX.

Personally Rob, I wouldn't recommend you take any high speed bends without the wing on. Danny said that he noticed the lack lateral grip as soon as he went round the bend.

[eisenjj]

Looks a bit naked in my taste!

[micknall]

As I have already warned AMG, over 100mph, straight line stability and cornering prowess are affected - though not by a huge degree. When we test at Bruntingthorpe, it means the difference between the car sliding, or not, through some of the faster bends. But sub-100mph on the road, there's little difference.

As far as top end goes, the car will not exceed 170mph with or without the wing.

[Stuart]

I think that the wing also tones down the look of the rear bodywork - it looks bloody enormous without it.

[amg merc]

A wide range of highly relevant comments as always! Me, I prefer the look without the wing and feel that sans wing is the best way to get used to the car on track. Once I become more accustomed I'll then fit the wing and will have the confidence to go even faster through the bends!

[Marlon]

AMG,

Not wishing to be rude, but...

Are you on medication?

I've heard more plausible logic from a pot plant...

[amg merc]

Marlon said:

AMG, Not wishing to be rude, but... Are you on medication? I've heard more plausible logic from a pot plant... Yes, I have flu but stand by it!

[Marlon]

Fair-dinkum!

Have you got the (wingless) beast yet?

[amg merc]

Marlon said:

Fair-dinkum! Have you got the (wingless) beast yet?

In dealers so inspecting it tomorrow and looking like next week for delivery - at least it can't fly away without a wing - see I knew there was some logic there!!!