What's in 100kg?

[s3am]

What makes up the 100 kilo difference between the GTO's 980kg and the GTO 3R's 1080kg?

It seems a massive difference considering the 'lightweight' nature of the car. After all that's nearly what BMW shaved off their M3 to make the CSL. Does anyone consider the car's orginal focus has been
a little softened? (more power and more weight)

Just playing advocate, after all I've already voted with my wallet. Wondering what opinions people had.

Sam

[joust]

Engine is a fair wack of that, along with the transmission and other stuff....

J

[MisterX]

Doesn't the 980kg refer to the 2.5? I thought the GTO3 was already over a tonne.

[s3am]

MisterX said:

Doesn't the 980kg refer to the 2.5?

Thats what I meant, isn't the 2.5 the GTO?

Sam

[micknall]

Bear in mind that the GTO-3R has a lot of soundproofing material that the original 980kg 2.5 GTO never had. The kerbweight of the GTO-3R also includes all the aircon equipment, which adds considerable weight. In fact, the weight of the GTO-3R's powertrain is only marginally different to that in the GTO.

[MisterX]

s3am said:

MisterX said: Doesn't the 980kg refer to the 2.5? Thats what I meant, isn't the 2.5 the GTO? Sam

Yes, sorry, badly phrased. What I'm really asking is what/where the weight different is between the 3 and 3R

>> Edited by MisterX on Thursday 30th October 12:03

[micknall]

The weight difference between the GTO-3 and the GTO-3R is 30kgs (1050kgs vs 1080kgs for the 3R). This is down to the extra weight of the soundproofing used in the 3R.

[joust]

micknall said:

In fact, the weight of the GTO-3R's powertrain is only marginally different to that in the GTO.

Oppss - sorry then. I was just going on other forums on Ford engines that there seemed to be a 10kg+ difference in the wet weight of a 3.0l V6 to the 2.5l (sad that I now read lots of "ford" forums for the latest on what people are doing with Mondeo engines).

ALthough those figures did come from a US based site so perhaps things are different over there?

Sorry again for giving duff infomation! (but therefore where is the difference between the 2.5l GTO and 3.0l then - or did the magazines have it wrong - I'm now confused!)

J

>> Edited by joust on Thursday 30th October 17:49

[3rtt]

Now, where did I put that Atkins Diet book ?

[nildram]

Sounds like 50kg is in the air-con - i.e. No difference. At a guess, 10kg in the engine, another 20kg in the LSD and 6 speed box...

So, the 2.5 is much lighter according to the mags, but a similarly specced one is little different.