Front Number Plate

[ibroker]

Does anyone have a pic of an M12 with a sticky number
plate on the front clam where the Noble badge is rather than a standard plastic plate that obstructs the air intake.

If you cannot post picture on the board you could mail direct to me at

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[goodlife]

Andy,

actech has some pictures of Rockingham on his site (gto3.com) - there are some photos of sticky number plate cars.

[ibroker]

Danny

Thanks

Had a bit of difficulty explaining to your wife at Rockingham why I could not bring the blonde I was with
to the Pie and Mash event. They were keen for me to spend the weekend with her and not my girlfriend.

Mind you perhaps there's there's a good idea there!!

[guysh]

My car is one of them with a stick on number plate what would you like to know?

[ibroker]

I was just wondering whether you took the badge off before sticking on the plate. I like the car better with a stick on plate but could not remember whether
there was enough room to squeeze it below the Noble badge.

GTO3.com has confirmed I need to move the badge

[amg merc]

Andy, I also like the idea of a stick-on front number plate but remember that it widd reduce your resale value (the bonnet will need respraying) and also that it is technically illegal!

[sidekick]

guysh said:

My car is one of them with a stick on number plate what would you like to know?

Guy, where did you source the stick-on plate from and have you moved the Noble badge from its original place to lower down or left it where it was?

[sidekick]

As an alternative to a stick-on item has anyone experimented with siting a reduced size front numberplate to one side a la the Alfa 156? Presumably this would resolve the disrupted radiator airflow issue, and not incur problems with plod, respray/reduced resale etc.

[guysh]

I don't think it is illegal - The factory did it to my car. The badge has been moved to front i.e. behind where the number plate used to be and plate is as low down as it will go with going over the edge so to speak.

Can't think why this should affect reasale value - it's a matter of opinion - as for respraying well you just get stone chip around where the plate was - doesn't really make a difference.

The majour thing is the the cooling is greatly improved.

[amg merc]

guysh said:

I don't think it is illegal - The factory did it to my car. The badge has been moved to front i.e. behind where the number plate used to be and plate is as low down as it will go with going over the edge so to speak. Can't think why this should affect reasale value - it's a matter of opinion - as for respraying well you just get stone chip around where the plate was - doesn't really make a difference. The majour thing is the the cooling is greatly improved.

Agree on the cooling comment but it was a dealer who commented on the resale value and need to respray(and they should know!) and it was the factory (no names!) who told me that the plate was "technically illegal (and they should know too)!

[joust]

I am sure I read somewhere there is only one car that can legally have a stick on number plate, and that's the Jag E-Type.

From the DVLA website

Are stick-on number plates legal?
No, number plates must meet the British Standard requirements and we are not aware of any self-adhesive number plates that are able to meet these requirements.

J

[ibroker]

The plate I'm putting on is also smaller than standard size.

illegal!! In for a penny in for a pound

[ibroker]

Joust you need to get a good woman.

Then you won't spend all your evenings reading the DVLA
web site!!!!

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[buxton]

The old e-type used these plates but they were illegal and would occasionally get pulled over. As the requirements if anything are getting tighter, I woul dexpect the ones on the Noble to also be illegal. I think the plate has to be vertical and of the correct size.

The re-sale value might be impacted by the lack of a legal plate, and the relevant fixing points as I gues you would take these off as well. But I don't see any other problem, as long as you can peel it back off without causing paint damage. Do they come off the ArmourFend stuff OK?

One of the factory cars has one fitted on top of an Armoutfend type of solution.

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>> Edited by buxton on Thursday 23 October 15:52

[charlie360]

I had a stick on plate on my 355 and was told it was illegal because it wasn't made of a reflective material like the normal plates!

[DanH]

You can get reflective stick on plates. Apparently the glue on these is strong though and may well damage the paint if you try to remove it. Someone mentioned sticking it onto less tacky plastic then onto the car (i.e. sandwhich it) to protect the paint.

[joust]

ibroker said:

Joust you need to get a good woman. Then you won't spend all your evenings reading the DVLA web site!!!!

Think Nick might have to say something about getting a MOTFS....
Google gets in it 1

J

[g_attrill]

The DVLA is correct that no self adhesive plates conform to the 2001 regulations (which are retrospective).
Basically, any car manufactured after 1960something needs to have an acrylic reflective number plate conforming to the relevant BS code (one of the 145 series).

You could get points and a fine, but if you feign ignorance and say the car came with it then you might just get a defect notice (ie. fix it, go to MOT station and pay £15 (I think) then police station.)

Gareth

[ibroker]

Put it on. about 40% samller than normal size, just
the job.

Quite frankly, F**k the law, this country
is so F**ked up with red tape and jobsworth W**kers
making C**ps rule and regs just cause Brussels says so.

There I feel so much better now.



>> Edited by ibroker on Tuesday 28th October 11:02

[hfiennes]

g_attrill said:

The DVLA is correct that no self adhesive plates conform to the 2001 regulations (which are retrospective). Basically, any car manufactured after 1960something needs to have an acrylic reflective number plate conforming to the relevant BS code (one of the 145 series). You could get points and a fine, but if you feign ignorance and say the car came with it then you might just get a defect notice (ie. fix it, go to MOT station and pay £15 (I think) then police station.) Gareth

I've (touch wood) never had any problems with the plate on my 1990 MX5 turbo; this is normal sized, normal spacing and not vertical, but IS reflective and BS145a marked. I got it from a car parts shop in Bath in 1990 - the shop is long gone now though!

It's also got through about 10 MOTs now at various garages without a mention.

Hugo