Today's Sunday Times
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MisterX said:
Buy the Sunday times today. Extract the motoring section. Bin the rest.
Hmmm, as usual Clarkson gets to the point in the last 1/5th of the article! Nice photos but I think the factory needs to comment on the mop-headed one's suggestion that the 2.5 is better handling than the 3.0 due to having lower power! Factory?!
>> Edited by amg merc on Sunday 28th September 13:04
amg merc said:
Hmmm, as usual Clarkson gets to the point in the last 1/5th of the article! Nice photos but I think the factory needs to comment on the mop-headed one's suggestion that the 2.5 is better handling than the 3.0 due to having lower power! Factory?!
>> Edited by amg merc on Sunday 28th September 13:04
Bloody hell - I'm just having my 2.5l Changed to a 3.0l - oh and I have had a ride in the Lee's Demo car - and power is certianly NOT lacking - my car and his my look similar (other than the front lights) but that's where the similarity ends.... talk about evolution - hopefully my car will be something like this when it returns...
Have to say that we at the factory were a bit perplexed about the comment JC made about the 3R's handling. For starters, the chassis is unchanged from the GTO, so there's certainly no more understeer. And his suggestion that you only need a whiff of throttle to loosen the back end is also baffling: the 3.0-litre engine has a more progressive power delivery than the 2.5-litre,which we feel makes it even more manageable, especially when accelerating hard around a bend. JC also failed to mention how much more torque the 3.0 has (350lb ft vs 320lb ft for the 2.5), meaning that you don't have to work so hard to keep it on the boil.
Also funny that every other motoring mag we've loaned the 3 to acknowledges the improvements.
Looks like JC's still a big fan, though.
Also funny that every other motoring mag we've loaned the 3 to acknowledges the improvements.
Looks like JC's still a big fan, though.
micknall said:
Looks like JC's still a big fan, though.
Along with the rest of us!
I must say that the 3 I've driven on the track certainly had more grunt (given the higer torque), but I personally like the "turbo nutter" attitude of the 2.5 - but then I was suckling on Audi Ur Quattros as a baby and so love that "oooooeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwww" as those lovely turbos kick in
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[quote=micknall]Have to say that we at the factory were a bit perplexed about the comment JC made about the 3R's handling. For starters, the chassis is unchanged from the GTO, so there's certainly no more understeer. And his suggestion that you only need a whiff of throttle to loosen the back end is also baffling: the 3.0-litre engine has a more progressive power delivery than the 2.5-litre,which we feel makes it even more manageable, especially when accelerating hard around a bend. JC also failed to mention how much more torque the 3.0 has (350lb ft vs 320lb ft for the 2.5), meaning that you don't have to work so hard to keep it on the boil...
Thanks for a factory response - Clarkson's style, whilst usually entertaining, often detracts from the original focus with him veering off into all sorts of personal space (note that he once had a jet fighter in his garden - it couldn't fly!).
Thanks for a factory response - Clarkson's style, whilst usually entertaining, often detracts from the original focus with him veering off into all sorts of personal space (note that he once had a jet fighter in his garden - it couldn't fly!).
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