Autocar 0-100-0

[s3am]

Reading Autocar's 0-100-0, was impressed by the 3R's performance, if not totally blown away...

...but bloody hell that Tuscan is fast -only about 1/2 second off the Zonda!

Still prefer the Noble, which my girlfriend insists on calling a Norman!

Norman vs. Trevor anyone?

[joust]

Interesting that the Noble was one of the best 0-30's and pulled more G on the brakes than almost anything else

I'd also think that the slipperyness of the tuscan helps a lot - the Noble is a bit - err - blunt...

385bhp should make it fun though!

J

[joospeed]

I assume the noble was a customer car then and not one of the factory "warmed over" versions - bet the tables would have been turned if there were corners to get around on the 0-100-0
Other thing of course is that although the noble didn't beat the tuscan, it looks just SO much better , like a true supercar

[joust]

I'm informed that the Noble had 3/4 of a tank, the TVR about 2 cupfuls.......

[factory]

From the factory

0-100-0

This was complete F up we had an engine controll issue and were only running 300 BHP on test just wait for re test but kicking exersise.

Lee Noble

[andyvdg]

[3rtt]

factory said:

From the factory 0-100-0 This was complete F up we had an engine controll issue and were only running 300 BHP on test just wait for re test but kicking exersise. Lee Noble

Hey Lee,

Does this (kicking) include taking corners?

I think we should be told...

[Stig]

I dunno, broken wishbones, engine management problems...

Noble's track record for mag tests isn't exactly exemplary is it!

Lee - go stand in the corner

Edited to say: Like racing, sods law stated that if it's gonna go wrong - it will do when you need it least! I'm a HUGE fan of the Nobles. In fact, a GTO 3R would be the only replacement I'd consider for the GTR.

>> Edited by Stig (moderator) on Thursday 31st July 10:34

[s3am]

factory said:

From the factory ...only running 300 BHP on test just wait for re test... Lee Noble

Well if 300hp makes 3.9 -60 and 9.4 -100, then I cant wait to see what 352hp or 385hp do!

Sam

- and I forgot to say how deeply impressive the braking was!

>> Edited by s3am on Thursday 31st July 10:28

[DanH]

These tests are dodgey as hell anyway. The amount of extra breaking ability/traction you could get by putting on Dunlop Rs or even AO48s could completely change the ranking.

Can't actually think of a test more artificial & pointless than 0-100-0.

[P290 KVP]

You have a point but then again the offer to take part is accepted and if things don't go well that is that.

The Noble's power wasn't the only thing - it didn't stop too clever either.

[amg merc]

- it didn't stop too clever either.[/quote]

would you explain?!

[nathan_m12]

P290 KVP said:

it didn't stop too clever either.

Apart from pulling the highest g in the test eh? On R compound tyres it'd have stopped better as well, the factory have tested yokohama 048R's so I fancy a set of them, only thing is I need another set of wheels to do that...

[joust]

P290 KVP said:

The Noble's power wasn't the only thing - it didn't stop too clever either.

EH? Were you reading some other article???? It pulled the highest G and came only second to the Caterhams & Panagi in seconds!!!!

[tuscansix]

P290 KVP said:

- it didn't stop too clever either.

Perhaps it should have been discussing the theory of relativity and man's position in the meta-physical context, while braking.

[DanH]

Point still stands about the rubber though. If you have a car that can wheelspin in the first few gears Dunlop Rs will give you radical performance improvements in acceleration just because you can get the power down. Breaking will also benefit loads.

They really ought to even the playing field for tests like this by mandating they fit the standard tyres for the car.

I don't doubt even AO48s would have helped the M12 significantly. Of course AO48s wear very fast, and aren't too clever in the wet.

>> Edited by DanH on Thursday 14th August 23:53

[p290 kvp]

as in it locked rears and went sideways - I was doing a car control session at the same time at Bruntingthorpe and the guy driving it couldn't keep it in a straight line as the rear brakes locked up first. Not really that safe?

[nathan_m12]

I'd bet that the caterham when sideways under excessive acceleration as well. Dangerous?

I've done some brake tests and although I could lock the rears it didn't go sideways, why would it if the front wheels are straight? Maybe I could offer to carry out the test for them next year

FYI there is a new brake bias valve now that is more biased towards the front, should mean that it can brake even harder so looking forward to next years test without a sick engine. Maybe noble could enter into the spirit of things and supply a car with full slicks

>> Edited by nathan_m12 on Thursday 14th August 22:15

[p290 kvp]

So if you know about the instability and the modified brake valve why seem so surprised when the braking ability is questioned?

[DanH]

How does moving more brake force to the front improve braking? It doesn't, it just makes it safer (and slower compared to perfect bias). Road cars tend to have a large amount of front bias as it makes them safer. Race cars have a bias adjuster and can run right on the border line. Not really sensible in a road car though, as too much front bias still beats swapping ends the first time you need to emergency stop.