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AMG Merc

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11,955 posts

282 months

Thursday 14th February 2008
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Be aware that, depending on how the South African gentleman was feeling on the day he assembled your M12, the run and length of your hoses will be variable.

I was lucky enough to notice a leak before it broke my engine recently and it came down to a split in the long heater hose rubbing onto the bottom of the engine casing. This is very hard to spot due to it being encased inside the bottom plates - the only clue was a loss of coolant.

As all M12's are getting to be 2-5 years old now it would be wise to get those pesky bottom plates off for a full inspection a.s.a.p. BTW, the dealer charge to change this was over £400 due to the labour - a good case for DIY!


sean_goodman

536 posts

232 months

Thursday 14th February 2008
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recently replaced all of mine for silicon ones as a few had show signs of being perished.

in my view if the car is more than 2 years old you should concider doing this

AMG Merc

Original Poster:

11,955 posts

282 months

Thursday 14th February 2008
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BTW, I was told that, with a loss of coolant like this, the temp gauge will most likely read normal - so no early warning (which made me wonder what the gauge is for)!

nigelw

706 posts

230 months

Thursday 14th February 2008
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Same here ...water leak at the weekend ..perished hoses from the two turbos and the one that goes forward to the radiator ...no warning , was just lucky to notice a bit of water on the floor in the garage ! yikes

georgeM400

732 posts

229 months

Thursday 14th February 2008
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These are handy for finding coolant leaks.

http://www.trustmymechanic.com/auto-repair/wp-cont...



NobleGuy

7,133 posts

244 months

Thursday 14th February 2008
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sean_goodman said:
recently replaced all of mine for silicon ones as a few had show signs of being perished.

in my view if the car is more than 2 years old you should concider doing this
How do you get those pesky rivets off the bottom?

peterguk

2,622 posts

246 months

Thursday 14th February 2008
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NobleGuy said:
sean_goodman said:
recently replaced all of mine for silicon ones as a few had show signs of being perished.

in my view if the car is more than 2 years old you should concider doing this
How do you get those pesky rivets off the bottom?

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

244 months

Thursday 14th February 2008
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peterguk said:
NobleGuy said:
sean_goodman said:
recently replaced all of mine for silicon ones as a few had show signs of being perished.

in my view if the car is more than 2 years old you should concider doing this
How do you get those pesky rivets off the bottom?
No way... First I need a ramp high enough, then the patience transplant. Why on earth did they do it with rivets and not (non-corroding) screws?

nigelw

706 posts

230 months

Thursday 14th February 2008
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Cost ?

Edited by nigelw on Thursday 14th February 13:56

steve1

1,251 posts

273 months

Thursday 14th February 2008
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NobleGuy said:
peterguk said:
NobleGuy said:
sean_goodman said:
recently replaced all of mine for silicon ones as a few had show signs of being perished.

in my view if the car is more than 2 years old you should concider doing this
How do you get those pesky rivets off the bottom?
No way... First I need a ramp high enough, then the patience transplant. Why on earth did they do it with rivets and not (non-corroding) screws?
This should help you out: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/281479.htm

Steve.

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

244 months

Thursday 14th February 2008
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When the head is drilled, how do you remove the body?
Punch it out the other side?

steve1

1,251 posts

273 months

Thursday 14th February 2008
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When you have drilled the head off the rest just falls out from other side, sometimes they need a little punch.

Steve.

RobP

2,097 posts

270 months

Thursday 14th February 2008
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AMG Merc said:
Be aware that, depending on how the South African gentleman was feeling on the day he assembled your M12, the run and length of your hoses will be variable.

I was lucky enough to notice a leak before it broke my engine recently and it came down to a split in the long heater hose rubbing onto the bottom of the engine casing. This is very hard to spot due to it being encased inside the bottom plates - the only clue was a loss of coolant.

As all M12's are getting to be 2-5 years old now it would be wise to get those pesky bottom plates off for a full inspection a.s.a.p. BTW, the dealer charge to change this was over £400 due to the labour - a good case for DIY!

The one who did mine obviously was having an off day. Planted the hoses right up against the gear linkage mechanism, so guess what? It wore a ruddy great hole in one of them. The water temp guage was not alot of help - but the cabin filling with steam was a bit of a give away. So anyone replacing theirs just make sure that the hoses are well away from any moving parts.

sean_goodman

536 posts

232 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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peterguk said:
NobleGuy said:
sean_goodman said:
recently replaced all of mine for silicon ones as a few had show signs of being perished.

in my view if the car is more than 2 years old you should concider doing this
How do you get those pesky rivets off the bottom?
pmsl,

to get the hoses out you dont need to take the whole floor off, there are two inspection covers under the car along the line of the tunnel, takes these off and you will be able to get the old hose out and the new one in.

10m of hose should allow you to change all the 10mm stuff

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

244 months

Saturday 1st March 2008
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AMG Merc said:
As all M12's are getting to be 2-5 years old now it would be wise to get those pesky bottom plates off for a full inspection a.s.a.p. BTW, the dealer charge to change this was over £400 due to the labour - a good case for DIY!
I would definitely second that. I fixed 5 different small leaks last week at the turbos and radiator and all it seems to have done is restored the pressure (at a guess) in the system and now I can hear coolant fizzing out of what is probably the 4m long one going under the car.