wanted 3r exhaust look

[art411y]

cannot stand the look of my 2.5 with the twin outlets pointing to the floor like a diesel.problem is the exhaust is in very good nick .has anyone done a bit of fiddling to get the later look or know the easiest way on my pocket to achieve this until the time comes to replace it all

[NobleGuy]

As far as I know the silencers are completely different configrations from the 2.5 to 3L - before the silencer the pipes may well be very similar. May just be a case of finding a 3L silencer/tailpipes but I might be wrong.

[NickyTwoHats]

Get a roush you know you want to

[Noblescort]

^

I'll give you a fiver for your old one!!

[art411y]

NickyTwoHats said:

Get a roush you know you want to

like the roush one but in the price does it come with a 2 week holiday for two in some exotic location .ive had a hayward on my evo and a great bit of kit.comparing the 2 i cannot see were the extra money is.taking the yellowish stuff comes to mind .just my opinion though being a tight northener and all that.sorry

[art411y]

NobleGuy said:

As far as I know the silencers are completely different configrations from the 2.5 to 3L - before the silencer the pipes may well be very similar. May just be a case of finding a 3L silencer/tailpipes but I might be wrong.

hhmmm has anyone got pics of their 3ltr for a comparison

[Adrian W]

art411y said:

NickyTwoHats said:

Get a roush you know you want to

like the roush one but in the price does it come with a 2 week holiday for two in some exotic location .ive had a hayward on my evo and a great bit of kit.comparing the 2 i cannot see were the extra money is.taking the yellowish stuff comes to mind .just my opinion though being a tight northener and all that.sorry

Show me the dyno plots for the H & S product, just maybe your paying for the development time and several long sessions on the dyno. I think today the Roush product is the only one with proven performance gains. I agree it is expensive but it is a very low volume product with all of the development costs of a high volume product.

[art411y]

Noblescort said:

^

I'll give you a fiver for your old one!!

been looking at the old one for about 2hrs now think im gonna take it to work strip it down and get it to look like the mr2 exhaust rear silencer.ie inlet and outlet one side and outlet the other

[joust]

art411y said:

NobleGuy said:

As far as I know the silencers are completely different configrations from the 2.5 to 3L - before the silencer the pipes may well be very similar. May just be a case of finding a 3L silencer/tailpipes but I might be wrong.

hhmmm has anyone got pics of their 3ltr for a comparison

3R exhaust can be made to fit with a big dent bashed into one of the feed pipes.

I had it done to my original 2.5 when I had the engine replaced. Cost around £1200 + labour + VAT from memory.

Piccies here

http://www.nobletv.co.uk/Pictures/Owner%27s%20Albu...



J

[art411y]

Adrian W said:

art411y said:

NickyTwoHats said:

Get a roush you know you want to

like the roush one but in the price does it come with a 2 week holiday for two in some exotic location .ive had a hayward on my evo and a great bit of kit.comparing the 2 i cannot see were the extra money is.taking the yellowish stuff comes to mind .just my opinion though being a tight northener and all that.sorry

Show me the dyno plots for the H & S product, just maybe your paying for the development time and several long sessions on the dyno. I think today the Roush product is the only one with proven performance gains. I agree it is expensive but it is a very low volume product with all of the development costs of a high volume product.

i would love to take a drive down to roush and say stick an exhaust on for me but i have a budget to work with.i work in a fabrication type of enviorment and work with stainless daily and most of the lads have performace cars and make parts for them one being exhausts knocked up in a week or 2 of dinners so find the roush exhaust price a shocking amount to pay.ive seen the roush and yes its fair quality and build its just the price that makes me cringe

[art411y]

joust said:

art411y said:

NobleGuy said:

As far as I know the silencers are completely different configrations from the 2.5 to 3L - before the silencer the pipes may well be very similar. May just be a case of finding a 3L silencer/tailpipes but I might be wrong.

hhmmm has anyone got pics of their 3ltr for a comparison

3R exhaust can be made to fit with a big dent bashed into one of the feed pipes.

I had it done to my original 2.5 when I had the engine replaced. Cost around £1200 + labour + VAT from memory.

Piccies here

http://www.nobletv.co.uk/Pictures/Owner%27s%20Albu...



J

thanks joust .my exhaust rear silencer is now off and in the back of the car so i can have a play at work

[caccobra]

Here are some pictures of the 3R exhaust as I removed mine (I left the stock cats and downpipes and converted it to a true dual exhaust with no y-pipe).



This is where the 2 downpipes connect into the y-pipe (causes lots of restriction above 6,000 rpm)).



This the front downpipe after removing the y-pipe.



This shows the rear downpipe and front downpipipe after removing the y-pipe and silencer.



Here is a picture of the y-pipe, silencer and exhaust tips after removal.



This is what I replaced it with.

Edited by caccobra on Sunday 14th October 11:34

[ajg31]

That is still my fave exhaust Caccobra

[LJM]

I was considering this mod when i had my 2.5, I went to a number of exhaust manufacturers (not sure where your based but pro-speed Cardiff is excellent) They all said it could be converted easily!! all they were going to do was replace my standard Silencer with what they called a "special" Which was as you described a silencer with one pipe in one end for inlet then one each end for the outlet.

Quotes were around £400....only reason i did not go for it was my diff gave up the ghost a few days later!!

HTH,

Lloyd

[gadgeroonie]

caccobra said:

Here are some pictures of the 3R exhaust as I removed mine (I left the stock cats and downpipes and converted it to a true dual exhaust with no y-pipe).



This is where the 2 downpipes connect into the y-pipe (causes lots of restriction above 6,000 rpm)).



This the front downpipe after removing the y-pipe.



This shows the rear downpipe and front downpipipe after removing the y-pipe and silencer.



Here is a picture of the y-pipe, silencer and exhaust tips after removal.



This is what I replaced it with.

Edited by caccobra on Sunday 14th October 11:34

did you manage to get a before and after power run ?

who made the exhaust for you ?

[ajg31]

IIRC that exhaust is american, Hoover's?

[art411y]

that looks sooooo cooool.how much was that system if you dont mind me asking

[art411y]

LJM said:

I was considering this mod when i had my 2.5, I went to a number of exhaust manufacturers (not sure where your based but pro-speed Cardiff is excellent) They all said it could be converted easily!! all they were going to do was replace my standard Silencer with what they called a "special" Which was as you described a silencer with one pipe in one end for inlet then one each end for the outlet.

Quotes were around £400....only reason i did not go for it was my diff gave up the ghost a few days later!!

HTH,

Lloyd

got the silencer in bits now couldnt wait till i got to work but i think i can make a seamless one as the mr2 in mirroe finish stainless will get pics by end of the week and hopefully give flow results for standard and the new one on the works flow meters

[caccobra]

ajg31 said:

IIRC that exhaust is american, Hoover's?

Yes. It was changed along with a remap. The difference was night and day with power all the way to the red line. Eliminating the y-pipe is key.

[JLSELAN]

art411y said:

that looks sooooo cooool.how much was that system if you dont mind me asking

The prices for Noble performance parts from Turbohoses (Hoover) are listed on his website:
http://turbohoses.com/Nobleperformance.htm
along with some typical "rolling road" results after various mods. Note that all HP values are measured at the rear wheels.