changing drive belt
changing drive belt
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sean_goodman

Original Poster:

536 posts

232 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2007
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so, have tried silicon spray on the alternator belt and it still wont shut up when cold. so been to ford and forked out for a genuine motorcraft belt and am gonna try that.

i assume it is straight forward to put on?

looks like the tensioner is spring loaded and has a square drive hole hrough which something can be inserted to allow the tensioner to be pulled back to facilitate belt removal/fitting?

any tips as to what to use?

alex s

2,105 posts

265 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2007
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sean_goodman said:
so, have tried silicon spray on the alternator belt and it still wont shut up when cold. so been to ford and forked out for a genuine motorcraft belt and am gonna try that.

i assume it is straight forward to put on?

looks like the tensioner is spring loaded and has a square drive hole hrough which something can be inserted to allow the tensioner to be pulled back to facilitate belt removal/fitting?

any tips as to what to use?
1/2" breaker bar.(or was it 3/8's) either way the one that fits.



sean_goodman

Original Poster:

536 posts

232 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2007
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yep, 3/8 i actually managed it with a ratchet put it was a bit of a pull.

shame the bloody belt i got yesturday from ford is the wrong size though.

i bought st220 duratec with aircon so thought it would fit.

off to ford now with the old belt to see what else there is

obes

3,298 posts

273 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2007
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they're not too bad to get mate, I just went down to the local factor and they had one.

It's a pain to do on your own, you have to have a fair old swing on the bar !

sean_goodman

Original Poster:

536 posts

232 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2007
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so...... set off for ford in the company car

on the way i thought to myself, "what a nice dry sunny day, roads a quiet as it is a public holiday in germany today. think i will go for a blast in the noble whens its back together"

got to ford which as a by product of the public holiday was of coarse SHUT!

ford part number on the wiki thing would be useful, when i get the correct belt i will add it, unless somebody can advise before hand

alex s

2,105 posts

265 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2007
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sean_goodman said:
so...... set off for ford in the company car

on the way i thought to myself, "what a nice dry sunny day, roads a quiet as it is a public holiday in germany today. think i will go for a blast in the noble whens its back together"

got to ford which as a by product of the public holiday was of coarse SHUT!

ford part number on the wiki thing would be useful, when i get the correct belt i will add it, unless somebody can advise before hand
Not sure it is a Ford part...as owen said, I got mine from a motor factor.

sean_goodman

Original Poster:

536 posts

232 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2007
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i assumed that being a ford motor the belt would be available from ford

ajg31

1,455 posts

236 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2007
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Just had my belts changed, still blinking squeaking. DOH!

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

244 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2007
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Yeah, I wondered if it was actually my belt wheels squeaking rather than the belt itself.

M400UK

130 posts

239 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2007
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belt the factory recommends is made by Gates, I have the old packaging from when I brought my last one from the factory in my garage, will post it later tonight.

M400UK

130 posts

239 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2007
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Is the drivebelt on your cars very close to the engine casing before it goes onto the aircon pump?

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

269 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2007
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M400UK said:
Is the drivebelt on your cars very close to the engine casing before it goes onto the aircon pump?
Is on mine. So close that there's a small groove in the rocker cover.

alex s

2,105 posts

265 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2007
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^^^^ yes ^^^^^

ajg31

1,455 posts

236 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2007
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Yup, so close its unbeleivable TBH.

M400UK

130 posts

239 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2007
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glad to hear its not just mine then!

sean_goodman

Original Poster:

536 posts

232 months

Thursday 4th October 2007
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right now thats its not a public holiday anymore i have changed to belt with interesting results.

the belt i took off was made by gates with a part number / spec 6PK 1708

this seems to mean 6 ribs and 1708 long

ford supplied me a belt from continental (as in the tyres) but a bit shorter as the closest match was 6PK 1705 meaning the belt was 3mm shorter. put it on, started up and now squeeks.

i reckon that with the belt being 3mm shorter it will also run a tiny bit tighter as the tensioner will be further anti clockwise thus having more sprung pressure on the belt. i did notice the new belt doesnt seem to slap about as much on top run between the sprockets as much as the old belt.

hopefully squueeky cold startes are finished, if so i will stick to this type of belt on every change.

off to do the hub nuts now lol

V6GTO

11,579 posts

271 months

Thursday 4th October 2007
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Let's hope the extra tension doesn't the bearings...

Martin.

Edited by V6GTO on Thursday 4th October 18:04

ajg31

1,455 posts

236 months

Thursday 4th October 2007
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3mm over 1700 odd shouldnt make alot of difference

sean_goodman

Original Poster:

536 posts

232 months

Thursday 4th October 2007
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ajg31 said:
3mm over 1700 odd shouldnt make alot of difference
thats exactly what i thought






















art411y

832 posts

249 months

Saturday 13th October 2007
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can i just add i had this on my es cossie tried numerous belts changed everthing on that belt tensioner water pump power steering pump etc but it still squeeled like a pig.got talking to a motorsport guy and said many ford engines using the spring loaded tensioner system squeal.told me to put a little bit of valve cutting compound in a couple of places on the belt and hey presto not a squeal since