Discs & Pads
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XLR Motorsport

Original Poster:

195 posts

230 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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My guys have just shown me the brake discs and pads on my M12 as it's up in the air for an oil change.

Does anyone know if the pads have been released by AP Racing yet, or are they still only available from Noble? They only need replacing at the front.

And what about discs? It's an all round job, so what do I need, and what about pricing?

At the moment, I don't track it, and I am a bit of a Sunday driver so budget parts are fine by me.

As per usual any help would be much appreciated.

daddysumo

2,545 posts

242 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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Sorry but.... budget brake parts on a Noble laugh
I dont think you will find many of those !!
Just having all mine changed and cheap it is not !

Steve

XLR Motorsport

Original Poster:

195 posts

230 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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OK, let me rephrase that. Do I have any other option than AP Racing when it comes to the discs and pads?

alex s

2,105 posts

265 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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XLR Motorsport said:
OK, let me rephrase that. Do I have any other option than AP Racing when it comes to the discs and pads?
Give Plans a call.
Also have you tried calling AP direct. I got my DS2500's from them direct, cheaper than Noble.

ajg31

1,455 posts

236 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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The front pads art the same as the v6 clio and other cars IIRC and std pads can be had for as little as 20 quid a set. No idea on the disc costs though.

XLR Motorsport

Original Poster:

195 posts

230 months

Wednesday 1st August 2007
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Cheers, nice one! Thank you!

In the meantime, has anyone else noticed a problem with a hose (possibly a fuel line) rubbing against the sump? My engineer spotted it whilst doing an oil change and it cutting into the side of the sump. Had it not been spotted there was a risk it would have either ruptured the sump or split the hose - not good. Anyway, rubbered up and I'll be keeping an eye on it.

F.C.

3,901 posts

237 months

Wednesday 1st August 2007
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ajg31 said:
The front pads art the same as the v6 clio and other cars IIRC and std pads can be had for as little as 20 quid a set. No idea on the disc costs though.
Err, that's got to go on the FAQ waki wiki thingy surely.
F.C.

ajg31

1,455 posts

236 months

Wednesday 1st August 2007
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F.C. said:
ajg31 said:
The front pads art the same as the v6 clio and other cars IIRC and std pads can be had for as little as 20 quid a set. No idea on the disc costs though.
Err, that's got to go on the FAQ waki wiki thingy surely.
F.C.
I will try to dig out the info for you as i have a receipt somewhere for the last set of front pads which were definately less than 20 quid. Last owner fitted them and not had a single issue in 4k miles. Wouldnt like to add to WIKI as i dont (AS USUAL) know all the facts!! I tried to find out about EBC Yellowstuff as well but they only list the M14?? The pics looked identical but i couldnt afford to take the risk of ordering them.

Edited by ajg31 on Wednesday 1st August 23:51

D_G

1,939 posts

238 months

Wednesday 1st August 2007
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Honestly, speaking as a vehicle tech cheap brake pads on a Noble is the same as fitting cheap tyres..........DONT!!
The're OK for your granny's 1.1 Fiesta but a 170MPH supercar no way. They will be fine at low speeds but the one time you do need to stop from speed they will overheat, fade and take you straight to the scene of the accident.
I'm upgrading mine from the standard AP set as I don't feel these are good enough, let alone some Indonesian compressed grass specials....

Dave

Edited by D_G on Wednesday 1st August 21:49

peterguk

2,622 posts

246 months

Wednesday 1st August 2007
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D_G said:
Honestly, speaking as a vehicle tech cheap brake pads on a Noble is the same as fitting cheap tyres..........DONT!!
The're OK for your granny's 1.1 Fiesta but a 170MPH supercar no way. They will be fine at low speeds but the one time you do need to stop from speed they will overheat, fade and take you straight to the scene of the accident.
I'm upgrading mine from the standard AP set as I don't feel these are good enough, let alone some Indonesian compressed grass specials....

Dave
Have to agree totally.

What on earth are you thinking of fitting some cheap, aftermarket brake components!

Mind you, whilst at it you could save some more money with unbranded 20W50 mineral oil at £2.99 per 5 litres, and a real wallet full by getting rid of your Corsas and fitting a set of Hankook DitchFinders instead.

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Wednesday 1st August 2007
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55k car and people are trying to save £20 on the brake pads, the one thing that could possibly save your life when you over-cook that overtaking maneuver.

Life is weird some days.

J

F.C.

3,901 posts

237 months

Wednesday 1st August 2007
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Have I missed something here?
If standard Noble pads are the same fitment standard as a Clio V6 then surely they must be up to the job,
Lee must have done his research and found an easily available performance pad set, No?
I use Pagids road and track myself but standard fitment is standard fitment.
F.C.

F.C.

3,901 posts

237 months

Wednesday 1st August 2007
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F.C. said:
Have I missed something here?
If standard Noble pads are the same fitment standard as a Clio V6 then surely they must be up to the job,
Lee must have done his research and found an easily available performance pad set, No?
I use Pagids road and track myself but standard fitment is standard fitment.
F.C.
Ahh! just realised ajg31 was talking about pattern pads.
NOT a good idea at all.
F.C.

ajg31

1,455 posts

236 months

Wednesday 1st August 2007
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WTF are you guys on? Who said anything about pattern parts?
I have told you i have done 4k on them, been on track as well but thats still not good enough for the Nobility. They are Mintex pads without the stupid Noble markup as far as i can see. If i get a chance tomorrow i will contact the last owner and double check.
Do you really think Noble had a brand new pad designed for it?
I think that the 200-2001 Cerbs also use the same pad as well as the 3l V6 Clio. Maybe this is why you can get the uprated pads cheaper than the factory as well smile They are not Noble specific (on the front anyway, i know the rears are cut back)

Edited by ajg31 on Thursday 2nd August 00:04

XLR Motorsport

Original Poster:

195 posts

230 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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Thanks for your help AJ. I'll definately have to look into that. Would you happen to have any part number to hand?

snuffy

13,217 posts

313 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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Let me give you the example of my last car, Lotus Esprit Sport 350 :

Front pads from lotus : About £80 IIRC. You could put EBC somecolourorother or Hawk pads on and they would cost you less than teh standard lotus pads.

Front discs from lotus : £1600 a pair. Lotus only sell the rotors and bells as a set and no one wants the bells, only the rotors. AP make them but wont sell directly, they will only supply to lotus. So, I had a pair of disks machined and drilled to fit for a hell of a lot less than £1600.

My point is that you don't have to fit the lotus ones ( or Noble in this question's case ) and a) you can save quite a bit of money ( over a £1k in my case ) and b) they are most likey just as good as teh originals, if not a bit better.

XLR Motorsport

Original Poster:

195 posts

230 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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Good point!

I know I haven't got the money to go round throwing it at excessively marked up discs and pads. Even if they are not the best of the best, creme de la creme and all that, I'm not a wr behind the wheel and I value my cars (and my life) too much.

ajg31

1,455 posts

236 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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XLR Motorsport said:
Thanks for your help AJ. I'll definately have to look into that. Would you happen to have any part number to hand?
Sorry this is where my whole arguement falls apart, haha. I also value my life and would NEVER fit or do anything substandard to my car. I like to find bargains NOT cheap substitutes.
As i said i will try to find out. I am moving to DS2500 pads as i either need to skim the fronts or replace. I have already bought the rear pads and will seee how much cheaper it is going to Noble Dealers for them and finding a 3rd party supplier.

V6GTO

11,579 posts

271 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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DS 2500s yes Good move. I killed a set of OEM pads after 4 laps on my first track day. Put DS2500s in and they were great...in fact the same pads are still in the car.

Martin.

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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What's the issue. Discs are £120 a pair, pads similar. I can't believe you want to fit something cheaper than that???? confused