Intercooler £1200 + vat
Discussion
My 3R is going into Plans next month for a service and a few repairs. I was considering my first mod and thought a upgraded intercooler would prevent the dreaded heat soak and performance drop off on the track. But they want £1200 + vat.
This is too surely too expensive, what are the alternatives?? Has anyone had the plans intercooler installed? Is it any good?
The NobleMods offers two (£650, £750) not including fitting. Would these be as good? (I’ve read his rant)
This is too surely too expensive, what are the alternatives?? Has anyone had the plans intercooler installed? Is it any good?
The NobleMods offers two (£650, £750) not including fitting. Would these be as good? (I’ve read his rant)
Yes, i think it is the double core intercooler from pro alloy. Priced at £695 on the pro alloy site.
I assume this is the one that the Graham talked about on the NobleMods site "has the most ridiculous end-tank design on any intercooler I have ever seen".
Do you know if it requires any irreversible mods to the intercooler box?
I assume this is the one that the Graham talked about on the NobleMods site "has the most ridiculous end-tank design on any intercooler I have ever seen".
Do you know if it requires any irreversible mods to the intercooler box?
m12gto3r said:
Yes, i think it is the double core intercooler from pro alloy. Priced at £695 on the pro alloy site.
I assume this is the one that the Graham talked about on the NobleMods site "has the most ridiculous end-tank design on any intercooler I have ever seen".
Do you know if it requires any irreversible mods to the intercooler box?
This Intercooler requires the box and a few hoses to be cut. It is not a reversible mod unless you get a new box and hoses. I assume this is the one that the Graham talked about on the NobleMods site "has the most ridiculous end-tank design on any intercooler I have ever seen".
Do you know if it requires any irreversible mods to the intercooler box?
There are various opinion's on what is the best one to go for but this one added approx 20bhp to my car. Any upgrade over the standard one is worth while. I had the Faulk's intercooler before this one and that made a big difference over the standard one. The pro-alloy one was another jump forward and worth the money.
ACROWE said:
m12gto3r said:
Yes, i think it is the double core intercooler from pro alloy. Priced at £695 on the pro alloy site.
I assume this is the one that the Graham talked about on the NobleMods site "has the most ridiculous end-tank design on any intercooler I have ever seen".
Do you know if it requires any irreversible mods to the intercooler box?
This Intercooler requires the box and a few hoses to be cut. It is not a reversible mod unless you get a new box and hoses. I assume this is the one that the Graham talked about on the NobleMods site "has the most ridiculous end-tank design on any intercooler I have ever seen".
Do you know if it requires any irreversible mods to the intercooler box?
There are various opinion's on what is the best one to go for but this one added approx 20bhp to my car. Any upgrade over the standard one is worth while. I had the Faulk's intercooler before this one and that made a big difference over the standard one. The pro-alloy one was another jump forward and worth the money.
obes said:
good stuff
must be something to do with it helping it breathe.
I always thought the IC's were about preventing power loss rather than adding !
That'll be the dodgy end boxes allowing it to breath.must be something to do with it helping it breathe.
I always thought the IC's were about preventing power loss rather than adding !
But then, think of the power gain if those were sorted out to be less dodgy.,....
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obes said:
good stuff
must be something to do with it helping it breathe.
I always thought the IC's were about preventing power loss rather than adding !
I agree, so are people saying the intercooler actually adds power to the car in all conditions? I understand that as owen says it can stop you losing power, but never heard of one adding power over one that is already upgraded. must be something to do with it helping it breathe.
I always thought the IC's were about preventing power loss rather than adding !
If that is the case I will be more than happy to buy one on the understanding it will add 20bhp...
Anyone up for a proper independent test of this?
If there's sufficient flow through the cooler, or the fans are always running, then I guess it will always cool the incoming air and present an advantage over standard ?
IIRC the real difficulties where were the intake temps climbed high enough to make the ECU inhibit the motor... or is that el crappo !
IIRC the real difficulties where were the intake temps climbed high enough to make the ECU inhibit the motor... or is that el crappo !
Edited by obes on Wednesday 30th May 16:08
m12gto3r said:
hmmm 20bhp you say. I'm more interested in reducing the heat soak on track days but a bit of extra power is a bonus.
Andy, you say worth the money but does £1200 + vat not sound a bit pricey to you?
It does sound a little on the high side. £816 for the intercooler then £594 for labour. Doesn't that work out to be 7 hours labour? Sounds like you might want to talk to Plans again. Maybe that price included vat? Andy, you say worth the money but does £1200 + vat not sound a bit pricey to you?
obes said:
If there's sufficient flow through the cooler, or the fans are always running, then I guess it will always cool the incoming air and present an advantage over standard ?
IIRC the real difficulties where were the intake temps climbed high enough to make the ECU inhibit the motor... or is that el crappo !
I think the pro alloy one does not come with fans...thats extra..but i could be wrong!!IIRC the real difficulties where were the intake temps climbed high enough to make the ECU inhibit the motor... or is that el crappo !
Edited by obes on Wednesday 30th May 16:08
Sure some of that money is better spent stopping the heat actually getting to the intercooler in the first place...
Nimbus GII works very well, both underneath the intercooler box and inside it under the intercooler, stops a massive amount of the heat from the rear turbo pasing through the bottom of the IC box.
alex s said:
obes said:
good stuff
must be something to do with it helping it breathe.
I always thought the IC's were about preventing power loss rather than adding !
I agree, so are people saying the intercooler actually adds power to the car in all conditions? I understand that as owen says it can stop you losing power, but never heard of one adding power over one that is already upgraded. must be something to do with it helping it breathe.
I always thought the IC's were about preventing power loss rather than adding !
If that is the case I will be more than happy to buy one on the understanding it will add 20bhp...
Anyone up for a proper independent test of this?
After that run we (Trevor) went on to change the throttle body and create a new map and we only saw about a 5bhp drop in power as everything got hot. My car is now running 398.9BHP and 400.8lb/ft. Not bad for a GTO3.
ACROWE said:
alex s said:
obes said:
good stuff
must be something to do with it helping it breathe.
I always thought the IC's were about preventing power loss rather than adding !
I agree, so are people saying the intercooler actually adds power to the car in all conditions? I understand that as owen says it can stop you losing power, but never heard of one adding power over one that is already upgraded. must be something to do with it helping it breathe.
I always thought the IC's were about preventing power loss rather than adding !
If that is the case I will be more than happy to buy one on the understanding it will add 20bhp...
Anyone up for a proper independent test of this?
After that run we (Trevor) went on to change the throttle body and create a new map and we only saw about a 5bhp drop in power as everything got hot. My car is now running 398.9BHP and 400.8lb/ft. Not bad for a GTO3.
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