XJ220 vs. M12

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olliete

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403 posts

118 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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Reading the article on Pistonheads front page (http://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-features-heroes/jaguar-xj220-ph-heroes/32757) I can't help but wonder how different an M12 (m400, or sorted GTO) would be vs. an XJ220, after all both have similar HP/Tonne and are twin turbo'ed with similar power and torque peaks

Has anyone driven an XJ220 to comment? I'd be interested to see how different the boost is between the two



shaunsmith

1,229 posts

224 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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Matt at Jetstream would know, they have one at their unit.

jetstream

106 posts

199 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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This was a little run out on Saturday...











These two Brits are both mid engined V6 twin turbos, but that is where the simarities end. The big cat goes round corners like it is on rails when you are at speed, but you need guns of steel to manoeuvre it around the country lanes. It feels big, and every input had to be done very precisely, with no rushing of gears or throttle input. Whereas the Noble you can chuck around like a go kart, stamp on the throttle, or brakes and play with it as it responds to every movement you give it. It takes the bumps like a comfy car, yet handles like a racing car. The 220 is totally rose jointed and you feel every stone, cat's eye or undulation in the road. It has no powersteering or brake servo assistance. I remember as a child my Dad throwing it around on our 40 minute journey to school and it felt like the fastest thing on earth (which at the time it was)
The Noble on the other hand is light, and nimble. The brakes are perfect and the steering inputs are minor. On the same roads, which we did this weekend, the Jag just cannot live with Noble's agility. And yes, the boost is like everyone always said it was. Plant the throttle and.... Wait... Wait... BOOM!! You are doing warp speed, until you see the next corner which you have to brake for way before you would in any modern sports car.

I love the XJ220, and it feels like a real adventure to drive. Everybody looks at it in awe, as you never see them on the road. But if I wanted to go for a proper blast and get there faster than a bike could, I would take a Noble.

Matt

patsrocket

275 posts

142 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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Great write up and pictures Matt!
Cheers from the States!

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

197 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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Nice comparison and awesome cars and pics.
smile

And while that Noble looks totally amazing, the Jag is just in a different league visually.


Curious, is there any scope to improve the braking on the XJ220?

Scooby P1

2,617 posts

236 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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Very enjoyable reading Jetstream. Best colour Noble too. And I do agree with your description.

I would find it hard to think of a better bumpy b-road car than a well sorted Impreza P1 (that I have had with the Alcon brake upgrade) as it is nicely sprung for bumps and simply doesn't get thrown by whatever the road throws at it.

The Noble is about the most similar, faster, car that I have driven and feels similar on a fun b-road to a P1.

My breadth of knowledge is far more limited than "playboy Walton" and many others but if you're on it, surely not much could stay with a Noble down a UK b-road.

- apart from my old Impreza of course!

TrickyDickyChappers

52 posts

149 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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Brilliant writeup Matt, very interesting and looks like you had a great drive out!

olliete

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403 posts

118 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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Thanks Matt - that's the response I was after!!

Love my Noble, but i would love a go in a XJ220!!