0-60 techniques
Discussion
Each car will be different, tyres, engine spec all play a huge factor in launch.... in truth you have to feel what the car wants rather than follow a list of instructions and then tailor your reactions accordingly.
Bewarned clutches, gearbox's, CV joints all can fail when launching the car violently off the line... it is after all only a ford mondeo gearbox drive shafts lol.
Saying that Ive found the gearbox very strong for launching in 1st gear and have not heard of many (if any) failures doing so... its 5th that goes.
Each method will put different strain on the car, but if you really want to go for it these are the methods I would recommend you try.
1. Rev car to 4000rpm, drive away slipping clutch to prevent wheelspin... this could kill the clutch but is kinder on other components, probably the 'least' expensive failure method as your more likely to burn clutch out rather than totally destroy it.
2. Rev car to 4500rpm and hold the revs, then second or so later side step clutch while keeping throttle in same position till wheelspin stops the floor it.... if car bogs down, next time raise the revs to 5000rpm and repeat... too much wheelspin reduce the revs....box, drive shafts, clutch all take a hammering, but this is the method that will launch it the fastest IMO.
DONT just blip the throttle to a rev and immediately drive off... let the car settle the on the revs you have selected and hold it on the throttle.
As an indicator, on a cold road I did a 0-60 burnout as a test and it was still 3.7 seconds.... I'd expect a relatively stock car to be able to match or beat that.
Bewarned clutches, gearbox's, CV joints all can fail when launching the car violently off the line... it is after all only a ford mondeo gearbox drive shafts lol.
Saying that Ive found the gearbox very strong for launching in 1st gear and have not heard of many (if any) failures doing so... its 5th that goes.
Each method will put different strain on the car, but if you really want to go for it these are the methods I would recommend you try.
1. Rev car to 4000rpm, drive away slipping clutch to prevent wheelspin... this could kill the clutch but is kinder on other components, probably the 'least' expensive failure method as your more likely to burn clutch out rather than totally destroy it.
2. Rev car to 4500rpm and hold the revs, then second or so later side step clutch while keeping throttle in same position till wheelspin stops the floor it.... if car bogs down, next time raise the revs to 5000rpm and repeat... too much wheelspin reduce the revs....box, drive shafts, clutch all take a hammering, but this is the method that will launch it the fastest IMO.
DONT just blip the throttle to a rev and immediately drive off... let the car settle the on the revs you have selected and hold it on the throttle.
As an indicator, on a cold road I did a 0-60 burnout as a test and it was still 3.7 seconds.... I'd expect a relatively stock car to be able to match or beat that.
If the car has genuine parts and is in good condition and up to spec (i.e. has components to cope with the power you have) then the noble is better that a lot of other super cars at coping with such an aggressive launch... as an indication or the Lambo diablo was said to be able to do an aggressive launch like this once, then new 4.5k clutch would be needed (what i heard not something I know for fact).... my V10 M5 had drivetrain warranty invalidated if it was launched 3 time (it records it as well).
Interesting 458 fact... I went on a super car run were i played extensively with the 458 in front and behind me in convoy.... at one point I actually lifted the front wheels off the ground in 1st gear... my car was a lot faster than the 458 even coming out of slow junctions
And yes I got in big trouble with the wife that day as she was in the car!
Interesting 458 fact... I went on a super car run were i played extensively with the 458 in front and behind me in convoy.... at one point I actually lifted the front wheels off the ground in 1st gear... my car was a lot faster than the 458 even coming out of slow junctions
And yes I got in big trouble with the wife that day as she was in the car!
andygtt said:
Interesting 458 fact... I went on a super car run were i played extensively with the 458 in front and behind me in convoy.... at one point I actually lifted the front wheels off the ground in 1st gear... my car was a lot faster than the 458 even coming out of slow junctions
And yes I got in big trouble with the wife that day as she was in the car!
Andy, is this with 700 horses or previous to the mods?And yes I got in big trouble with the wife that day as she was in the car!
JW027 said:
Hi Guys,
I've never tried a 0-60 in mine but reading the stats I figure I'd like to try. Is there a specific technique for optimum times or is it foot to floor from 6k and hope for the best?! I hope somebody can give some detailed instruction to get off the line like a pro!
cheers
May I ask why you need to test this, considering the failures it can cause, What is optimum time? it clearly depends on so many other conditions I doubt you can achieve the same time anyhow.I've never tried a 0-60 in mine but reading the stats I figure I'd like to try. Is there a specific technique for optimum times or is it foot to floor from 6k and hope for the best?! I hope somebody can give some detailed instruction to get off the line like a pro!
cheers
If you are planing a run a santa pod I would understand, if not gez on a track better, and try driving round corners at 130mph much more fun imo
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sundance002 said:
May I ask why you need to test this, considering the failures it can cause, What is optimum time? it clearly depends on so many other conditions I doubt you can achieve the same time anyhow.
If you are planing a run a santa pod I would understand, if not gez on a track better, and try driving round corners at 130mph much more fun imo
+1 If you are planing a run a santa pod I would understand, if not gez on a track better, and try driving round corners at 130mph much more fun imo
Hi Chaps thanks for the posts and sorry for the delay in replying.
a few reasons for the post:
-I have a car with great performance and actually fancied experiencing the paper potential. Loads of people have sub 4 second cars but I wonder how many experience it?
- I have always been interested in driving techniques so seeing what people advise to get cars of the line i find interesting
With all the warey comments i may reconsider as I don't want to inflict any massive damage although i am annoyed to hear these weakness in cars such as these that are supposed to be able to perform.
Such is life
a few reasons for the post:
-I have a car with great performance and actually fancied experiencing the paper potential. Loads of people have sub 4 second cars but I wonder how many experience it?
- I have always been interested in driving techniques so seeing what people advise to get cars of the line i find interesting
With all the warey comments i may reconsider as I don't want to inflict any massive damage although i am annoyed to hear these weakness in cars such as these that are supposed to be able to perform.
Such is life
JW027 said:
Hi Chaps thanks for the posts and sorry for the delay in replying.
a few reasons for the post:
-I have a car with great performance and actually fancied experiencing the paper potential. Loads of people have sub 4 second cars but I wonder how many experience it?
- I have always been interested in driving techniques so seeing what people advise to get cars of the line i find interesting
With all the warey comments i may reconsider as I don't want to inflict any massive damage although i am annoyed to hear these weakness in cars such as these that are supposed to be able to perform.
Such is life
Its not just the Noble that can break under so much stress with high rev launches, most super cars have small print in there waranty regarding launch control.a few reasons for the post:
-I have a car with great performance and actually fancied experiencing the paper potential. Loads of people have sub 4 second cars but I wonder how many experience it?
- I have always been interested in driving techniques so seeing what people advise to get cars of the line i find interesting
With all the warey comments i may reconsider as I don't want to inflict any massive damage although i am annoyed to hear these weakness in cars such as these that are supposed to be able to perform.
Such is life
Much better to short shift 1st gear and lose most of the wheel spin, there still will not be many who can keep up with you.
JW027 said:
Hi Chaps thanks for the posts and sorry for the delay in replying.
a few reasons for the post:
-I have a car with great performance and actually fancied experiencing the paper potential. Loads of people have sub 4 second cars but I wonder how many experience it?
- I have always been interested in driving techniques so seeing what people advise to get cars of the line i find interesting
With all the warey comments i may reconsider as I don't want to inflict any massive damage although i am annoyed to hear these weakness in cars such as these that are supposed to be able to perform.
Such is life
my option of launch control was deleted from the R35 GTR for the UK/EU spec because even on a 480bhp car capable of 1000bhp the transmission was getting destroyed by it's 'over-use' a few reasons for the post:
-I have a car with great performance and actually fancied experiencing the paper potential. Loads of people have sub 4 second cars but I wonder how many experience it?
- I have always been interested in driving techniques so seeing what people advise to get cars of the line i find interesting
With all the warey comments i may reconsider as I don't want to inflict any massive damage although i am annoyed to hear these weakness in cars such as these that are supposed to be able to perform.
Such is life
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