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The devil

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2,141 posts

190 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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Hi guys,
On the way back from Le Mans today after getting off the ferry, I seemed to have lost boost pressure and power, it drives OK and I got back OK but the gauge only shows it boosting up to 0 rather than 0.7. can anyone suggest any pointers
Cheers

Zoobeef

6,004 posts

165 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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Split or popped off boost hose?

TuxMan

9,011 posts

245 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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Also check the intercooler they can split .

Blu3R

2,379 posts

206 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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And all the jubilee clips are tight.

The devil

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2,141 posts

190 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Well
All the pipes look good

Blu3R

2,379 posts

206 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Both actuator rods still connected?

The devil

Original Poster:

2,141 posts

190 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Or could they be seized?

funkybmx1

958 posts

201 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Just to throw another thing up. Are the turbos lose also

Green3R

400 posts

255 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Would a faulty boost solonoid (or control signal in/from the ecu) do this?

If it were jammed open then that would limit the boost.

How to test....
Maybe (with the engine off!) suck (or is it blow?) on the open port of the solonoid and see if it's passing air. Though I'm not sure if it's normally open and the controller shuts it to maintain boost or the other way round. I'll check later tonight.

Or block the vent port and take it for a gentle run- with a caution that doing this may lead to an overboost and the controller won't be able to bleed off the actuator pressure.

Edit:
Nope, I thought about this again and I'm wrong. A faulty solonoid would just mean no or full vacuum pulling on the wastegate actuators.
If there was no vac, then the wastegates would just be held shut by the springs (full/overboost). With full vac (ie no air being bled in via the solonoid) then the gates would be pulled open limiting boost.

So, I'd second the guess that it's the rod from actuator to gate that's come off.


Edited by Green3R on Wednesday 17th June 07:45

The devil

Original Poster:

2,141 posts

190 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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If the actuator arm is loose does that mean the waste gate is free to flap about and hence loose pressure

Blu3R

2,379 posts

206 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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The devil said:
If the actuator arm is loose does that mean the waste gate is free to flap about and hence loose pressure
Yes. You'd never make +ve pressure, you'd only ever reach 0

The devil

Original Poster:

2,141 posts

190 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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The boost gauge moved a tad but only up to 0

Blu3R

2,379 posts

206 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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The C clips rot to nothing and then the actuator arm can fall off the spigot completely which leaves the wastegate penny flapping about. It'll then never close so all you'll get is vacuum up to a maximum of 0. With twin turbos you can generate a small amount of positive pressure from the other if only one has failed but it'll be fairly negligible.

daddysumo

2,545 posts

220 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Are you sure an open waste gate on our turbo will bleed off all the exhaust gas required to generate no boost ?

The devil

Original Poster:

2,141 posts

190 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Well, I've checked all the pipes, clips, actuators and all seems OK, so I'm stumped at the moment, might be going down to Skip

verba1

628 posts

175 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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do u have a bov ?

The devil

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2,141 posts

190 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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No BOV's on my car

The devil

Original Poster:

2,141 posts

190 months

Saturday 20th June 2015
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Well, not a clue whats happened but boost is back, perhaps a stuck waste gate or something