Xenon headlamp conversion on a 2002 m12

[Paul curran]

Just looking at fitting a xenon kit into the standard head lamp unit any one done this ?

Any suggestions on kits etc ?

Cheers

Paul

[mgbond]

Yes, don't bother. I just fitted the ultra bright series bulbs and they work just great and you won't blind anyone.

[wessexrfc]

Hummmm, one of the best updates I've done to the car is the head lights, and haven't blinded anyone so far!! Mine are the projection type lens though.

[les5709]

I have a set waiting to be fitted, but i thought now that to get the car through MOT you would need a whole wash wipe system also?

[Paul curran]

As far as I'm aware your supposed to have the potentiometers that fit on the rear lower arms so the aim of the headlamps changes with angle the car is sitting at , therefore not blinding people but i suppose it's down to the tester ?

What kit have you got ?

[joust]

All covered here

http://mottesters.co.uk/files/special%20notices/MO...

This is what MOT testers are required to do (not this is not actually related to the law, fitting OEM HIDs without a self leveller is actually illegal, but a MOT is not designed to see if your car is legal or not)

"Vehicles equipped with High Intensity Discharge (HID) or LED dipped beam headlamps may be fitted with headlamp washers and a suspension or headlamp self levelling system. Where such systems are fitted, they must work; however, it is accepted that it may not be possible to readily determine the functioning of self levelling systems. In such cases, the benefit of the doubt must be given."

Ergo it's not a MOT requirement for a self levelling system to be in place. If it is it must work.

They will test beam pattern and height though, so you can't just fit them in and not check they will dazzle someone.

J

[SwankBaton]

All this again?
Friendly MOT station = Pass,
Jobsworth = Fail.
Get them aligned properly , no blinding , the car is too low anyway.

[les5709]

Thanks for the info - don't think they are the most simple to fit on the noble. anyone know if an easy power source to take for the ballast rather than running through to the back of the car to the battery.

[mgbond]

mgbond said:

Yes, don't bother. I just fitted the ultra bright series bulbs and they work just great and you won't blind anyone.

My point was simply it was too much hassle and fitting the hi Intensity type increased them significantly to the point that they were enough for me. I drive back roads quite a bit and all over winter on dark mornings/evenings and never had an issue. Never really use full beam in the noble and my everyday car (which also has high intensity bulbs). So many people use high beam in the mornings on my way to work but I don't feel they need to and it just blinds others when they don't turn them off quick enough as you come over a hill and get a wack of light in ur face.

It's each to their own I suppose. They are only £40 so try them and if u think u need more light then go HiDs.


IMHO

[brappage]

mgbond said:

My point was simply it was too much hassle and fitting the hi Intensity type increased them significantly to the point that they were enough for me. I drive back roads quite a bit and all over winter on dark mornings/evenings and never had an issue. Never really use full beam in the noble and my everyday car (which also has high intensity bulbs). So many people use high beam in the mornings on my way to work but I don't feel they need to and it just blinds others when they don't turn them off quick enough as you come over a hill and get a wack of light in ur face.

It's each to their own I suppose. They are only £40 so try them and if u think u need more light then go HiDs.


IMHO

Where did you get the bulbs from Bondy? Have the covers off of mine with a view to changing a gubbed bulb as we speak. Had thought about xenons but with the police presence around the roads near here and the pettyness of the officers I get enough attention without drawing it to me unfortunately.

[mgbond]

brappage said:

Where did you get the bulbs from Bondy? Have the covers off of mine with a view to changing a gubbed bulb as we speak. Had thought about xenons but with the police presence around the roads near here and the pettyness of the officers I get enough attention without drawing it to me unfortunately.

I brought the Phillips ones for the Noble but Halfords now do there own brand and when I brought some the other day for the Seat, they were buy one get one free.

I'm only talking about the old style lights not the 3R/M400 as I have no expirence of them

[wessexrfc]

Paul curran said:

As far as I'm aware your supposed to have the potentiometers that fit on the rear lower arms so the aim of the headlamps changes with angle the car is sitting at , therefore not blinding people but i suppose it's down to the tester ?

What kit have you got ?

Mine went through MOT no problem, the difference on low beam is staggering over standard. Hope this link helps, contact HID4U, very helpful:


http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=121...

I'm not knocking what others have done, but the HID's make such a difference it really is worth the extra £'ss IMHO!!!

[JBliss]

I did the HID conversion, But instead of using the standard headlight connectors to connect it up,which creates excess wiring, i made the HID's part of the headlight loom and hid the ballasts. much cleaner, but took a while!

[Richardanorris]

I'm considering upgrading the lights, the HID4U H4 systems look good, which wattage did folks go for and was it just a single extension cable that was required to complete the installation over the standard kit ?

Rich

[JBliss]

I went for 6k bi-Xenon

I ordered 6 extensions, but i didnt use all of them. It depends on where you want to mount the Ballast.

[wessexrfc]

Richardanorris said:

I'm considering upgrading the lights, the HID4U H4 systems look good, which wattage did folks go for and was it just a single extension cable that was required to complete the installation over the standard kit ?

Rich

We went with standard kit and fitted them into the rear of the light housing. It was tight but they fitted, we were worried about heat, 18 months all is still fine.

[Richardanorris]

JBliss said:

I went for 6k bi-Xenon

I ordered 6 extensions, but i didnt use all of them. It depends on where you want to mount the Ballast.

Where did you mount your ballast units ?

[wessexrfc]

Richardanorris said:

Where did you mount your ballast units ?

If your's is a 3R/M400, it will fit within the rear molding, it is tight, but it will fit.

[JBliss]

I've got the older style headlights so the ballasts are mounted behind the panel behind the rad (towards the car).The wiring runs underneath the rad and up to the lights.

Do not be tempted to cut any wires and extend them. As its high voltage you can only really use the extension cables.

Happy to take a few pics for you when I get the car back next weekend

[F.C.]

les5709 said:

Thanks for the info - don't think they are the most simple to fit on the noble. anyone know if an easy power source to take for the ballast rather than running through to the back of the car to the battery.

Use original wiring for lights to be replaced, HID light use a fraction of the power of halogen.
BTW this is NOT an endorsement of aftermarket HID's.