Unusual behaviour
Unusual behaviour
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Blu3R

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2,380 posts

228 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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I have what feels like a misfire at only occurs at around 3.5krpm in third/fourth/maybe higher, haven't checked - the car feels fine and has lots of boost building with WOT before this point and then coughs. If I keep my foot in, it clears and pulls right to 5.5k ish where I'll typically change anyway.
Now ordinarily I'd look at plugs, coils, fuel pump plus associated wiring, filter etc. BUT the od thing is when it's coughing, the rev counter drops to 0 and flicks back and forth between the correct rev and 0.
What's that all about? Crank sensor?
I've recently resealed the floor and am wondering if I've inadvertantly managed to trap a wire, is this possible given the symptoms?

Any ideas where to start would be great.

sundance002

1,304 posts

193 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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Blu3R said:
I have what feels like a misfire at only occurs at around 3.5krpm in third/fourth/maybe higher, haven't checked - the car feels fine and has lots of boost building with WOT before this point and then coughs. If I keep my foot in, it clears and pulls right to 5.5k ish where I'll typically change anyway.
Now ordinarily I'd look at plugs, coils, fuel pump plus associated wiring, filter etc. BUT the od thing is when it's coughing, the rev counter drops to 0 and flicks back and forth between the correct rev and 0.
What's that all about? Crank sensor?
I've recently resealed the floor and am wondering if I've inadvertantly managed to trap a wire, is this possible given the symptoms?

Any ideas where to start would be great.
Hello mate., could it be the lamda sensor? also i had this problem that turned out to be the ecu .


TIGERSIX

969 posts

260 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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Start at the plugs and work your way out imo .

GTO600

1,877 posts

280 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Check the bulkhead relays & holders.

worty

2,202 posts

254 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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I had something very similar. After checking plugs coild ht leads chamging the map and swopping the ECU Dave at Jetstream tracked it down to a dodgy injector.

HTH
worty

dave sutton

213 posts

177 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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It must be something that is sending duff signals to both the rev counter and engine management. If it is also rpm/vibration sensitive, it suggests a sensor that is loose or has a dodgy connection or something in the fuelling system. These are the clues, I leave it to the experts to narrow it down to the likely candidates.

Hollowpockets

5,910 posts

245 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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the same symptoms for me was one coil breaking down and not able to create a strong enough spark at high boost

Blu3R

Original Poster:

2,380 posts

228 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Thanks for all the suggestions, I think the best course of action is to start at the beginning and rule out the obvious, as Tigersix said.
Only thing is.....
dave sutton said:
It must be something that is sending duff signals to both the rev counter and engine management. If it is also rpm/vibration sensitive, it suggests a sensor that is loose or has a dodgy connection or something in the fuelling system. These are the clues, I leave it to the experts to narrow it down to the likely candidates.
That's what I started thinking, the rev counter is making me doubt any of the obvious ideas and why I initially thought I should look at maybe crank sensor - is it a red herring?

mgbond

6,749 posts

261 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Is the car well warned up when this happens. Didn't a few people get a similar symptom and it was the fuel pipe collapsing?

Bondy

GTO600

1,877 posts

280 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Blu3R said:
Thanks for all the suggestions, I think the best course of action is to start at the beginning and rule out the obvious, as Tigersix said.
Only thing is.....
dave sutton said:
It must be something that is sending duff signals to both the rev counter and engine management. If it is also rpm/vibration sensitive, it suggests a sensor that is loose or has a dodgy connection or something in the fuelling system. These are the clues, I leave it to the experts to narrow it down to the likely candidates.
That's what I started thinking, the rev counter is making me doubt any of the obvious ideas and why I initially thought I should look at maybe crank sensor - is it a red herring?
Rob, that's why l suggested checking the bulkhead relays & holders as this can be the cause of your fault with indentical symptoms. Remove the relays & blow out the bases with an airline then spray with a switch cleaner, also clean all the relay connections & make sure they are making good connection in the holders or even better fit a new Ecu & fuel pump relay ( Note though that these are not your normal 5 pin changeover relays).

Ash 996 GT2

3,836 posts

270 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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GTO600 said:
Check the bulkhead relays & holders.
This!

If your relays, behind the driver are upside down, check for water damage.

If yes, remove, replace, take the relay holder out, turn upside down, preferably move into cabin.

Sorted.

Of course, thats if it is that smile

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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is it overboosting in the cold weather ?

Nickellese

65 posts

221 months

Saturday 30th March 2013
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Blu3r did you ever get to the bottom of this issue?

Mine started doing exactly this whilst out today. No other symptoms execpt the cough (rev counter drops) then back to normality.


Advice would be welcome!


Cheers

Nick

Blu3R

Original Poster:

2,380 posts

228 months

Monday 1st April 2013
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Nick, being completely honest - the car hasn't moved since I posted about this problem. It's in the garage and tucked to one side so I can get around without bumping it, so I can't even lift a clam to check anything. When the weather improves I'll get onto it.

Rob

Nickellese

65 posts

221 months

Monday 1st April 2013
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Thanks for the quick reply Rob,

A bit more progress my end, I took mine out again yesterday and it starting stuttering at tickover at junctions/ whilst stationary. It sounded like a fueling issue, to my inexperienced ears anyway!

Hope you get to the bottom of yours soon chief.


Thanks

Nick