Getting on&off ferries - Stena HSS in particular

Getting on&off ferries - Stena HSS in particular

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hfiennes

Original Poster:

46 posts

264 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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I'm off to the Netherlands next weekend (1st time with the Noble!) but was just wondering...

Considering I pretty often scrape speedbumps, has anyone had any experience getting the Noble on/off car ferries without destroying the splitter? Do I need to bring my own bits of wood, for example? Is it actually possible?

Thanks,
Hugo

obes

3,298 posts

251 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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Went to Le Mans via Caen from Portsmouth with Brittany Ferries. No problem with loading / unloading.

O.

DanH

12,287 posts

267 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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Check the tide tables

Marlon

735 posts

265 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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We had some "fun" getting a Noble onto the ferry from Swanse to Cork, but it went on OK. Just remember to take it slowly, and take ramps at a slight angle if possible. They should let you park on the lower-deck with the lorries, and they'll probably help all they can to make sure you don't scrape.

However, if you DO scrape it, don't expect any compensation! A TVR Cerbera with us pretty much knocked it's exhausts off (when, despite protest, they insisted that it go up the ramp to the upper deck) and the captain blamed the driver for taking such a low car on the boat...

Also, be careful where you park! Remember that they pack the cars in pretty tight, and it's not easy to get in or out when you only have the door open a few inches... try to position the door carefully, and don't forget to fold your mirrors in.

joust

14,622 posts

266 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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It's all about angles. Get as close to taking it at 30 degrees as you can and you'll be amazed at what you can get on and off!

I've done the Isle of Whight ferry at low and high tide and not had any problems despite it looking rather scary.

All the other advice is sound

J

hfiennes

Original Poster:

46 posts

264 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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joust said:
It's all about angles. Get as close to taking it at 30 degrees as you can and you'll be amazed at what you can get on and off!


Thanks for all the advice, I'll let everyone know how it goes (hopefully *without* requiring pictures ). Just a tad nervous!

Hugo

joust

14,622 posts

266 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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Good luck!

DustyC

12,820 posts

261 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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DanH said:

Check the tide tables


Defintily tide dependant.

Took the Griff to Le Mans and got on the ferry no problem.
Getting off it on the way home was something else though.
Grounded out on the bottom in the middle like a seesaw, the rear wheels just getting enough grip to push it through.
The exhaust is very scratched up now but surprisingly not dented.

I have seen them get planks out for a very low F40 before. Perahps they will for you.

There is no choice of where you park. With the roof on we wouldnt have been able to get out of the car!

DanH

12,287 posts

267 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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Yep, coming back from lemans in the Elise, they picked my car out as a small car and jammed it into the smallest gap you've ever seen. Had to glare at the car parked next to us to stop them opening their doors into us and getting out the drivers side was an exercise in contortion. I think the people who went '1st class' (i.e. coffee & croisant for 30 quid) seemed to be loaded on first right at the front of the line with the most space around them.

On the way out we were last on the ferry (everyone else was loaded) and they just left us on the lower deck with tonnes of room. It was a much newer ferry than the one we came back on though and the staff were much nicer.

As to the ferry company that forced a guy to ruin his exhaust going up a ramp, they'd be hearing from my solicitor!

DustyC

12,820 posts

261 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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Exhaust isnt that bad, scartch is only along the underside in the middle. If it comes out of the sevice with any other problems then they will be hearing from me.

The fortunate thing when travelling to LM is that you are normally crammed in with others who care about there cars. I had a 996 one side and an Alfa SZ the other.

pbrett

11,809 posts

247 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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Is the Eurostar any better?

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

266 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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Eurostar is a walk in the park - no problems at all, no ramps, nice and easy

DanH

12,287 posts

267 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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Eurostar also costs about 4x as much and instead of sitting in a nice lounge with a coffee, you have to stand by your car for an hour a million miles away from the loo.

Ferry > Eurostar imho.

crb1

922 posts

249 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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In fairness to Eurostar, I found it twice as fast as the ferry (ie 30 mins vs 60-70). No trouble with ramps there. BUT. Its a big but. If you've just done 200-300 miles a coffee or cooked breakfast break is just what you need. On Eurostar they are still in the 80s when it comes to client service. Meanwhile the ferry companies have moved on.
Chris.

micknall

826 posts

256 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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Hugo,

The HSS should not pose any problems for the 3R. As with all ferries, just before the approach to the ramp, turn the wheel to full lock so that you're almost driving on to it sideways. The guys who oversee parking are used to seeing low cars and are very helpful about guiding you on.

I've been on most of the ferries out of the UK with a Noble (including the HSS to the Hook) and I've yet to encounter a problem.

Simon Hucknall
Press Officer
Noble Automotive Ltd.

miken

276 posts

262 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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Recent experience on Dover Calais going over to Le mans was no real problem. the only issue we had was queuing up for Breakfast..

I've yet to find a ramp I cannot conquer by the use of the technique outlined by Micknall. Let your leading wheel hit the obstacle first lifts you over the ramp, and then I try to hit the downward bit the same..

And mine is a daily driver in what seems like the speed bump capital of the world (ie Wandsworth, London)

Cheers

Mike

crb1

922 posts

249 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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And Mike, tell us how you got on coming back to blighty.


miken

276 posts

262 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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Fair play Chris. Lets just say I didn't have to worry too much about ground clearance!

hfiennes

Original Poster:

46 posts

264 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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An update - no problems at all with the HSS, there are no bumps to trouble the noble with at all on the way in or way out of the boat.

However, the concrete "bump up/bump down" speedbumps (no curve, just a fixed concrete angle) you get in residential areas of the Netherlands are a nightmare, and are often too big for even an angled approach to work. I had to do a good amount of illegal reversing at one point

The splitter's still on though - just keeping my fingers crossed about all those speed cameras!

Hugo