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Gadgeroonie

Original Poster:

5,362 posts

265 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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there are some on ebay at the moment

not the nicest ones but i like the way they have moulded them to fit the side pods

is anyone on here bidding on them ? if you win can you send me some detailed pics

i have a plan for a set of big scoops and looks like the way these ones fit could be used

SwankBaton

763 posts

201 months

mgbond

6,749 posts

261 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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Anyone thinking of making carbon or grp M400 pods or have some for sale as I would like to fit some.


Bondy

dealmaster

243 posts

254 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Ive been looking at some on the Peter Smith website www.dcjg70.co.uk. Look to be £112 each ex VAT and delivery in GRP.

I quite fancy a set. Do they improve air flow into the engine bay all that much though? Or more a cosmetic visual thing. They look great!


mgbond

6,749 posts

261 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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I wonder if there could be a chance of a group buy, maybe in carbon? TUX over to you smile

dealmaster

243 posts

254 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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I could be interested in that too.

RobP

2,097 posts

270 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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dealmaster said:
Ive been looking at some on the Peter Smith website www.dcjg70.co.uk. Look to be £112 each ex VAT and delivery in GRP.

I quite fancy a set. Do they improve air flow into the engine bay all that much though? Or more a cosmetic visual thing. They look great!
Cosmetic - almost no air at all enters the side pods above 70mph.

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

269 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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RobP said:
Cosmetic - almost no air at all enters the side pods above 70mph.
They do aid braking though with all the extra drag smile

Gadgeroonie

Original Poster:

5,362 posts

265 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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we need some large wide ones and the area inside the clam needs cutting out

the m14 mule and a slipstream car has had some big ones fitted

GTO600

1,877 posts

280 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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RobP said:
Cosmetic - almost no air at all enters the side pods above 70mph.
The problem is getting the air out of the engine bay, if you sort that then you will get the air in. Simples

Gadgeroonie

Original Poster:

5,362 posts

265 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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i would like to get the back of the clams cut out on mine

but i am not brave enough !

will the clam need repainting after it has been cut ?

chuntington101

5,733 posts

265 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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GTO600 said:
The problem is getting the air out of the engine bay, if you sort that then you will get the air in. Simples
Whats the best way to help get the air out of the engine bay? Open up the rear clam behind the rear wheels?....

Chris.

R0162

2,435 posts

193 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Gadgeroonie said:
i would like to get the back of the clams cut out on mine

but i am not brave enough !

will the clam need repainting after it has been cut ?
I cut mine without repainting, just mask off the ensure the paint does not chip around the edges while cutting, paint the inside profile with some black paint and a touch up brush.

AverageMPH

493 posts

191 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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I’ve seen a Noble M400 with a 12-inch fan mounted on the rear clam above the front turbo and just behind the rear window.

I’m not overwhelmed with the looks of the above side scoops; I prefer the factory-supplied scoops.

Edited by AverageMPH on Wednesday 21st September 18:08

R0162

2,435 posts

193 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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chuntington101 said:
Whats the best way to help get the air out of the engine bay? Open up the rear clam behind the rear wheels?....

Chris.

GTO600

1,877 posts

280 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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chuntington101 said:
GTO600 said:
The problem is getting the air out of the engine bay, if you sort that then you will get the air in. Simples
Whats the best way to help get the air out of the engine bay? Open up the rear clam behind the rear wheels?....

Chris.
There are many things to do to solve it but the easiest & cheapest that will improve the airflow is to simply change the rear mesh for larger & move the number plate. For road use this will help alot.

Chris's picture is is exactly it !

mgbond

6,749 posts

261 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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I intend to do the cut outs and change the mesh. Once this is done will having the side pods get more air into the engine bay.

PC stated that cutting out this area under the pods helped cool the engine bay?

Bondy

R0162

2,435 posts

193 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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After doing some aero mods to the front wheel arches, i got this airflow reading from the side pods, max 65kmh airflow when travelling at 130kmh, also when tested at 60kmh the airflow as 30kmh, but unfortunateluy i never tested above 130kmh and i did not test airflwo before doing the other aero mods, also the airflow reading may not be accurate, but for me it was convincing enough to mount the oil cooler in the side pod.



The top side scoops in the rear clam seem to get the best airflow into the engine bay, 93kmh airflow when travelling at 120kmh (after aero mods).



andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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the issue is that air down the side of the car is turbulent... you either need to tidy the air up to allow the scoop to ram it into the engine bay (very hard to do fully even when sorting the front wheel arch venting)... or you have to make the engine bay suck air in.

Unfortunately getting the air sucked in is also hard as the rear of the car is a reasonable exit but will never suck air through... in fact often air actually goes IN via rear end vents so has the opposite effect (this is what happens on the Ultima IMO)!!!

what we actually need is openings in the high pressure areas on the top of the car to suck air through... again hard as we have buttresses and a dropped area between them above the engine bay that causes turbulence and looses the high pressure that would usually be there (hence we raise the wing to get to clean air!).

the exits behind the rear wheel probably only vents the wheel arch and not the engine bay.

strangely, the solution IMO is a fast back lol

Gadgeroonie

Original Poster:

5,362 posts

265 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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would some pods that sit on the top of the rear quarter windows do the job ?