M14 Vrs Joss

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pinnacle

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168 posts

248 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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Was giving this some thought. What do you guys think of the comparison of this ride vrs the new M14 ?







joust

14,622 posts

266 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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Sorry - no idea, I'd never heard of that!

Any more specs? Price? It looks very "LeMans" racer - very nice!

J

pbrett

11,809 posts

247 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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joust said:
Sorry - no idea, I'd never heard of that!

Any more specs? Price? It looks very "LeMans" racer - very nice!

J


500BHP V8 and 940Kg they say so it's going to be quick. In some interview the designer's said it'll be the 'price of a Ferrari' so £100K+ I'd guess.

To be honest, if they do keep it less than a tonne for £100K they're doing very well. Looks like it's got periscope exhausts doesn't it. Interesting.

DanH

12,287 posts

267 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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Can't work out those exhausts. Its going to stain the paintwork I reckon.

pesty

42,655 posts

263 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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that is effing gorgeous!

pbrett

11,809 posts

247 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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DanH said:

Can't work out those exhausts. Its going to stain the paintwork I reckon.


Yup, like I said, 'interesting'. And they've built their own engine. Now who else do we know who's done that? Hhmmm. Good luck to them I say. Needs a rear spoiler though. But that's just me....

matt_t16

3,402 posts

256 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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pbrett said:

Needs a rear spoiler though. But that's just me....


Technicaly it won't need a rear spoiler as the introduction of gas flow exiting the exhausts into the airflow over the rear deck area of the car should create sufficent turbulance within the airflow to work as an effective anti-lift device. Won't give you any downforce though.

Matt

ashgaunt

78 posts

258 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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Why does everyone try to get technical?

The effect of exhaust gasses exiting should be even less an effect on lift as say winding down a window.

People seem to forget that aerodynamics at the front of the car are equally important and subtle changes can mkae more difference. Not just to balance lift and dowforce but also to gain stability and reduce drag. Sticking wings on aint the way forward. Besides, from the pictures, underbody aerodynamics look like they'll keep the thing down.

I like the car but you couldnt drive it to work everyday very easily, its not really comparable in my eyes.

At the end of the day, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

>> Edited by ashgaunt on Saturday 29th May 22:50

pbrett

11,809 posts

247 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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ashgaunt said:
Why does everyone try to get technical?


I'm not getting technical. I just think it'd look better with a spoiler. I like spoilers. Who cares if that's sensible...

ashgaunt

78 posts

258 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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wasn't meaning you mate

would look more balanced with a wing or elise type lip.

Seen the perspex gurney jobbie on that TVR slice'n'dice - its mounted on cool cnc brackets.

Style should follow function, thats all I'll say.

pbrett

11,809 posts

247 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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ashgaunt said:
Style should follow function, thats all I'll say.


No problem. I should really have put some in me answer. The periscope exhausts are a bit daft. I can't believe they don't know why the F1 teams do it, and how they haven't done that themselves (lower the back as much as possible).

I remember a few years back when the first F1(ish) LeMans cars came out, all spoilers etc. I want one of those, on the road I thought. Got my 3R now. Close enough.

Cheers

Phil

ashgaunt

78 posts

258 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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Noble's a bit better on them B roads tho eh

pbrett

11,809 posts

247 months

Sunday 30th May 2004
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ashgaunt said:
Noble's a bit better on them B roads tho eh

Oh, yes. About the same to park though . All I have to do now is work out how to get 6 more cylinders in and spin it at around 18K RPM and my dream has really come true. It's going to make the car a bit wide me thinks.....