Residual Values

Residual Values

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IBROKER

Original Poster:

658 posts

265 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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All this changing around is not doing much for residual values is it??

2.5 to 3.0 GTO3 To 3R 3R to M400

Is the restructure any sort of atempt to have some sort of influence on the second hand market.Every company makes progress foward this I accept.

What will the attitude of dealers be if asked to part ex a Noble against another marque, in particular those dealers who have now been dumped and may have on there forecourt cars they have over paid for.

Micknall. Do you have any comment to make. (This is a discussion point only, I have no axe to grind on a personal level)

ashp

222 posts

265 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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IBROKER said:

(This is a discussion point only, I have no axe to grind on a personal level)



guess it doesn't help you sell your 3R in the classifieds, or am I mistaken ?

goodlife

1,852 posts

266 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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I'm just glad I got out when I did

Maintaining price control through having a direct strategy is one thing, but lowering the price is another.

Can you see anyone paying £56k for the new cars in stock at Christopher Neil?

This will knock onto the secondhand market.

adparker

175 posts

276 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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goodlife said:
I'm just glad I got out when I did

Maintaining price control through having a direct strategy is one thing, but lowering the price is another.

Can you see anyone paying £56k for the new cars in stock at Christopher Neil?

This will knock onto the secondhand market.


They've all been reduced to £53,450

IBROKER

Original Poster:

658 posts

265 months

Thursday 27th May 2004
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ashp said:

IBROKER said:

(This is a discussion point only, I have no axe to grind on a personal level)




guess it doesn't help you sell your 3R in the classifieds, or am I mistaken ?


No axe to grind as my car has sold!!

MOD500

2,686 posts

257 months

Thursday 27th May 2004
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adparker said:

goodlife said:
I'm just glad I got out when I did

Maintaining price control through having a direct strategy is one thing, but lowering the price is another.

Can you see anyone paying £56k for the new cars in stock at Christopher Neil?

This will knock onto the secondhand market.



They've all been reduced to £53,450


Yes, saw that too. I was going to go test drive the black demo car with a view to buying it if I liked it the other weekend but had to work......lucky I didn't go, a £3k hit a few weeks would have been awful

joust

14,622 posts

266 months

Thursday 27th May 2004
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MOD500 said:
Yes, saw that too. I was going to go test drive the black demo car with a view to buying it if I liked it the other weekend but had to work......lucky I didn't go, a £3k hit a few weeks would have been awful

Martyn,

I'm facinated by your viewpoint. Presumably when you buy a car you keep it for a few years, in that respect this price change, once discounted down through the residlual, will probably be a few hundred pounds at worse in 3 years time.

To that end you wouldn't have "lost" the 3k unless you tried to immediatly sell afterwards.

Were you therefore just expressing an "immediate" view or is there something else that I've missed?

Afterall the price drop potentially affects my "classic" () M12 as well, but it doesn't concern me as I haven't seen any second hand price changes of 2 to 3 year old cars yet (despite looking).

J

>> Edited by joust on Thursday 27th May 09:26

sidekick

266 posts

258 months

Thursday 27th May 2004
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I think most people would be a bit pi55ed off if they'd paid £56K for something that they could have bought for £53K a couple of weeks later. Regardless of the rate of depreciation, the fact that the £3K could still be in your bank account to be spent on something else as opposed to being in the dealers bank a/c would annoy all but the wealthiest among us (or in my case, it'd be reducing my overdraft by £3K! )

MOD500

2,686 posts

257 months

Thursday 27th May 2004
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Morning Justin

Hope you are well.

I was implying that I'd be sick as a parrot if I had bought the demo car....then a few weeks later the same car (in theory) had been reduced by £3K. Or if I had purchsed one of the new cars I would have paid £3K over the odds compared to the other new cars they would still have for sale.

Are you coming playing to Brunters on the 20th?

Best Regards

MOD.

joust

14,622 posts

266 months

Thursday 27th May 2004
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Ah - got you both (sorry - obviously a bit slow this morning) - yes - that would rile with me as well.

I'd imagine the dealer / factory would have to sort something out if that happened to someone!

Brunters - absolutlymondo!

J

MOD500

2,686 posts

257 months

Thursday 27th May 2004
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joust said:
Brunters - absolutlymondo!

J


Excellent!

amg merc

11,954 posts

260 months

Thursday 27th May 2004
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Price reduction - like I said in an earlier post - why havn't the factory (and/or dealers) contacted recent owners to explain the price reduction strategy and potentially reduce any growing ill-feeling?!

Basic good business practice, and a good way to keep customers, I'd have thought!

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

266 months

Thursday 27th May 2004
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When my missus bought a Golf which 1 month later had the price dropped by £1500 VW sent her a cheque for £700 - how nice is that!

jb26413

244 posts

246 months

Thursday 27th May 2004
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m12_nathan said:
When my missus bought a Golf which 1 month later had the price dropped by £1500 VW sent her a cheque for £700 - how nice is that!



So they owe her 800 quid still

hunttheshunt

1,093 posts

247 months

Thursday 27th May 2004
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Ooops did I stray onto the Ferrari forum by mistake!

With the exception of a very few, most cars tend to drop in value the moment they are driven from the showroom.

As a fellow petrolhead, I buy my cars to drive and enjoy, not admire in some heated garage. My car is two months old and yes, £2500 is a little inconvenient but c'est la vie!!

I'm sure it won't be the last money I 'lose' on a car, and try renting it for less!!

so endeth my two penneth!

goodlife

1,852 posts

266 months

Thursday 27th May 2004
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MOD500 said:

joust said:
Brunters - absolutlymondo!

J



Excellent!


Me too! Justin - fancy meeting at Wigh Hycome again?

Alan_leamy

257 posts

257 months

Friday 28th May 2004
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Paul,
Couldn't have said it better myself.

Cars are for driving. Yes, I would prefer the 3k but hey!

joust

14,622 posts

266 months

Friday 28th May 2004
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goodlife said:

Me too! Justin - fancy meeting at Wigh Hycome again?
Ohh - does that mean I get to play with your Jag???

Sure - if I come from "down saaarf" then absolutlymondo - but I might be coming down from "up noorrrf" so I'll let you know nearer the time.

J