Which 3l diesel auto estate £9-12k? 4wd preferred

[TiminYorkshire]

Mrs in Yorkshire wrote off our Audi A6 Allroad (C6 2009 model).

We are now wondering what's best to replace it with. Preferences are:

3l+ diesel estate
Auto
230bhp+
Reliable
<125k miles
4wd for snow (Alps and Yorkshire Moors - note we run our cars on winter tyres over the winter)
40mpg on a long continental run.

Looking at Audi A6 Avant & Allroad in C7 variety, contemplating 330d xdrives, and also thinking about the smaller A4 options.

Any advice with regards reliability and nice place to be? - It doesn't have to be "entertaining", as we have an old Mini Cooper S for blasting locally.Effortless wafting, easy commute, with the option of a quick overtake locally or when on fast cruise across Europe to the Alps or Bohemia.

One thought is to settle on 2wd - in which case Mrs in Yorkshire is CLS350cdi curious in the "shooting brake" variety - any feedback on these? I like the look of Jaguard XFs, but the 3 litre V6 in them doesn't seem to have the best reputation for relaibility.

Answers and thoughts on a post card, or more preferably posted below.

Edited by TiminYorkshire on Thursday 27th June 21:46

[nobrakes]

TiminYorkshire said:

Mrs in Yorkshire wrote off our Audi A6 Allroad (C6 2009 model).

We are now wondering what's best to replace it with. Preferences are:

3l+ diesel estate
Auto
230bhp+
Reliable
<125k miles
4wd for snow (Alps and Yorkshire Moors - note we run our cars on winter tyres over the winter)
40mpg on a long continental run.

Looking at Audi A6 Avant & Allroad in C7 variety, contemplating 330d xdrives, and also thinking about the smaller A4 options.

Any advice with regards reliability and nice place to be? - It doesn't have to be "entertaining", as we have an old Mini Cooper S for blasting locally.Effortless wafting, easy commute, with the option of a quick overtake locally or when on fast cruise across Europe to the Alps or Bohemia.

One thought is to settle on 2wd - in which case Mrs in Yorkshire is CLS350cdi curious in the "shooting brake" variety - any feedback on these? I like the look of Jaguard XFs, but the 3 litre V6 in them doesn't seem to have the best reputation for relaibility.

Answers and thoughts on a post card, or more preferably posted below.

Edited by TiminYorkshire on Thursday 27th June 21:46

If she like the CLS shooting break, get her one and put 4 good all seasons on it.

[Belle427]

Not sure how long the engine problems continued through the later BMW 330d but always worth checking.

[TiminYorkshire]

nobrakes said:

If she like the CLS shooting break, get her one and put 4 good all seasons on it.

After doing a little research on these the main watch out point seems to be rear subframe corrosion. Also MBUK seem to be helping with the replacement of these. How concerned should I be about this on a CLS shooting break?

[nobrakes]

TiminYorkshire said:

nobrakes said:

If she like the CLS shooting break, get her one and put 4 good all seasons on it.

After doing a little research on these the main watch out point seems to be rear subframe corrosion. Also MBUK seem to be helping with the replacement of these. How concerned should I be about this on a CLS shooting break?

I don’t know. Maybe find a potential one and check with the service history and MB recall and it get an Indy inspection?

[ZX10R NIN]

TiminYorkshire said:

After doing a little research on these the main watch out point seems to be rear subframe corrosion. Also MBUK seem to be helping with the replacement of these. How concerned should I be about this on a CLS shooting break?

It's very sporadic, I've only seen it on 3 Mercedes but it can be a potential issue so it's maybe worth getting your potential purchase checked.

The CLS is a great option & one I'd recommend, alternatively if you really want AWD then there's also the R Class, these are actually more spacious than the E class/CLS:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202406190...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404148...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202401135...

BUT I'd take the CLS as it just looks better:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311033...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405229...

Edited by ZX10R NIN on Saturday 29th June 17:11

[Pyrolysis]

What about this:
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16874755

Seems to tick the boxes. My default answer would be a 335d or a 340d touring but I'm trying to be a bit more liberal these days

[ZX10R NIN]

Isn't that at least £11,750 over the OP's budget

[Wheel Turned Out]

Pyrolysis said:

What about this:
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16874755

Seems to tick the boxes. My default answer would be a 335d or a 340d touring but I'm trying to be a bit more liberal these days

Twice OPs budget would probably be a bit of a sticking point.

Personally I'd go for another Allroad. They're just so good at what they do.

[Silvanus]

Allroads are great cars, but I'd be very tempted by an XC-70. Doesn't hit the 3.0 requirement, but the top spec 2.4 D5 is a great engine.

[Wheel Turned Out]

I love an XC70, people seem to want all the money for them though.

[Deerfoot]

Silvanus said:

Allroads are great cars, but I'd be very tempted by an XC-70. Doesn't hit the 3.0 requirement, but the top spec 2.4 D5 is a great engine.

A late XC70 D5 SE Lux would be a lovely thing.

[stevemcs]

Watching vag technic videos on the 3.0 put me off them. It’s a shame as they are good cars.

[InitialDave]

My old man has a 2015 330d Xdrive, and it seems pretty decent as an all-rounder (if you like diesels).

Problems so far (~3 years of ownership) have been leaking AC pipe and a dead wheel speed sensor.

[Silvanus]

Deerfoot said:

Silvanus said:

Allroads are great cars, but I'd be very tempted by an XC-70. Doesn't hit the 3.0 requirement, but the top spec 2.4 D5 is a great engine.

A late XC70 D5 SE Lux would be a lovely thing.

Guy I work with has one, uses it as a work horse and gets abused, been very reliable.

[119]

Apart from the utter shyte autoboxes, the XC70 D5 LUX is a lovely place to be in all honesty, with nearly all of the gadgets you could want, although a decent late one will be top, if not over your budget.

[Silvanus]

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[Wheel Turned Out]

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[Pyrolysis]

ZX10R NIN said:

Isn't that at least £11,750 over the OP's budget

I stand corrected, I failed to read the thread title. Ok, in this case I'd recommend an E9X 335d.

[nobrakes]

A 3series estate isn’t exactly an ESTATE car.