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DSMSMR

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1,087 posts

17 months

Friday 14th August
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Looking to buy a mid sized SUV ish EV... Have chased the youtubers to death,,,,,

No 1 choice, the Enyaq. Comparing that to its nearest rivals...the id4 and Q4 e tron, the Enyaq "wins" everytime. .....

Anyone here been in the same position. Want to stay under £20k, a trowbar is a must...

sixor8

8,438 posts

296 months

Friday 14th August
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My sister has a 2024 id4 through salary sacrifice. She reckons the previous 2019 Kia e-Niro she had was a better car. It was the long range 4 with a heat pump so a good spec. She doesn't rate the display or infotainment in the id4. frown

Stumpysid

17 posts

199 months

Friday 14th August
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Have a look at the ioniq 5. Should get a nice ultimate spec with the big battery for that budget.

Although it looks like a hatch, it’s a large car and virtually the same size as the Enyaq. The images make them look smaller than they are.

samoht

7,177 posts

174 months

Friday 14th August
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Dunno if the Polestar 2 is SUV-ish enough, but they can have a towbar fitted and decent choice of pre-facelift cars for your budget.

MrAverage

843 posts

155 months

Sunday 16th August
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The Enyaq is the same as the competitors you mention, if it's cheaper / better spec / lower miles than any of those then get one.
Quite a few Enyaq's at work none seem to have caused any drama

I had an ix3 which I guess is a competitor but loses out on range and space but I could recommend one if the c.200 (real use mileage) works for you

There is always the ubiquitous Tesla Model Y.....

Russet Grange

2,902 posts

54 months

Sunday 16th August
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I've looked at this. Model Y is obviously an option but note that the towbar has to be factory fit. They do crop up on Tesla's website but £20k is unlikely.

sawman

5,165 posts

258 months

Sunday 16th August
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Arent all those listed by OP more or less the same with different badge.

20k will get a 2022/3 volvo xc40 ev, and may get a pre facelift 2024/5 toyota bz4x. Both of these can have tow bar.
Neither of these have had stellar you tube reviews ( although jayemm seemed to like the updated bz4x)

However we have had both of these on the drive for a couple of years and are both decent cars, they have easy to use infotainment , decent stereo, comfortable, quiet and cheap to run - which is all thats really needed from an EV. The volvo feels a bit more premium overall


DSMSMR

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1,087 posts

17 months

Sunday 16th August
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They seeemd to be the best of the EV range that are more SUV ish, that we are looking for......Dont really want a more car looking one.

occasionalranter

438 posts

74 months

Sunday 16th August
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Correct to say the Enyaq is only SUV"ish". More of a slightly taller estate, like say an A6 allroad rather than a Q5. I like mine and I think they're a fairly sensible used proposition, least irritating software skin and user controls of the VW group MEB variants.

DSMSMR

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1,087 posts

17 months

Sunday 16th August
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I have "found" the Unicorn. Its got the towbar and not only electrical drivers seats but nearly all the packages that Enyaqs come with....I emailed the dealer and said Interested etc and can I put a deposit down, they sent a link at 6 pm sat night, which doesnt work.....and today have seen a "reserved sticker" on their website......I am gutted.

rfn

4,605 posts

235 months

Sunday 16th August
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DSMSMR said:
I have "found" the Unicorn. Its got the towbar and not only electrical drivers seats but nearly all the packages that Enyaqs come with....I emailed the dealer and said Interested etc and can I put a deposit down, they sent a link at 6 pm sat night, which doesnt work.....and today have seen a "reserved sticker" on their website......I am gutted.
Maybe they've reserved it for you pending a deposit (appreciate this is optimistic thinking)!

Sporky

11,883 posts

92 months

Sunday 16th August
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sawman said:
Arent all those listed by OP more or less the same with different badge.
They're all on the same platform, but there's a lot more to a car than the platform.

DSMSMR

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1,087 posts

17 months

Monday 17th August
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Correct.
A neighbour bought an id3 and they are just now finding out how much they hate the slidey controls which seems to be the hilight of many reviews.
So the VW is out.
So its perhaps down to the Enyaq and E tron......maybe!

Sporky

11,883 posts

92 months

Monday 17th August
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I've not tried the others, but the Enyaq and Elroq I tried were good enough for me to have ordered an Enyaq VRS.

127Sport

55 posts

Monday 17th August
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DSMSMR said:
Correct.
A neighbour bought an id3 and they are just now finding out how much they hate the slidey controls which seems to be the hilight of many reviews.
So the VW is out.
So its perhaps down to the Enyaq and E tron......maybe!
If you just set your climate control to, say, 20c, and never change it, then slidey controls in VWs are academic.

Like for like, the VW ID5 sems to be cheaper second hand than the Enyaq, and it has a bigger boot than the ID4 somehow.

paul_c123

2,320 posts

21 months

Monday 17th August
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127Sport said:
If you just set your climate control to, say, 20c, and never change it, then slidey controls in VWs are academic.

Like for like, the VW ID5 sems to be cheaper second hand than the Enyaq, and it has a bigger boot than the ID4 somehow.
Do you never change the volume of the stereo either?

RizzoTheRat

28,706 posts

220 months

Monday 17th August
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DSMSMR said:
a towbar is a must...
Check the specs on the towing capacity carefully as they can be quite rubbish on some BEVs and PHEVs. My Lexus NX PHEV is only 1000kg for braked trailers, and a nose weight of only 60kg, which is pushing it a bit even for a cycle rack. Google suggests the Enyaq has a nose weight of 75kg which is ok, but might only be 1000kg braked depending on model.

For comparison a Landrover Defender can tow 3500kg and a nose weight of 200kg.

127Sport

55 posts

Monday 17th August
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paul_c123 said:
Do you never change the volume of the stereo either?
Yes, the control is on the steering wheel - traditional buttons not a slider.

Edited by 127Sport on Monday 17th August 14:46

DSMSMR

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1,087 posts

17 months

Monday 17th August
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Looked at the ioniq 5....the id4.... hate theY......the list is all but non existant now.

James-gbg1e

434 posts

108 months

Tuesday 18th August
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Ioniq 5 - Do not touch, ICCU issues. Rear sliding bench is a nice touch, boot space is small with the rear glass.
ID4 - A rubbish version of the Enyaq.

I'd had an Enyaq 85 (full spec) for 2 years now, my last car was a C43 Estate for reference. I've 2 kids and a Labrador.

I got it via SS for £440pm and kept it to 30 months as it was an experiment and I wasn't sure if I was ready for accepting middle age... Turns out it's an absolutely fantastic car!

Mines got the dynamic chassis, HUD, Matrix LED etc but I'm sure even in more basic guise they're a very good car. In the 85 there's plenty of grunt, even coming from a 396bhp bi-turbo ICE... Torque and power under 70mph is very generous id say.

Gripes? No remote locking via the app, the preconditioning in the winter is rubbish at times though I'm not clear if that's a me thing or Skoda's servers falling over when it's 7am and -5 outside. Software updates can be slow, I'd have hoped for more apps integrated into the infotainment by now, by Android Auto works great. I also have the Canton speaker upgrade, but the sound isn't a patch on my Merc or indeed my SLK with their audio upgrades.

Driving wise, it's a little sloppy in corners, but nothing you wouldn't expect from a tall SUV.

In 24 months nothing has broken, no issues... Oh barring the charging flap needing silicone spray, well known issue (they get stuck in closed position).

I'd recommend it.