What would PH do?
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Robin-rndgc

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13 posts

123 months

Thursday 22nd January
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I’m selling my car and have had a rush of interest this evening.

I had two full price sight unseen offers. I accepted the offer from the guy that committed first. No deposit taken, but I said “I’ll hold it for you until Sunday”.

I had another query an hour later and informed them it was sold. They came back with a higher offer (6%).

I would feel uncomfortable going back to the other guy and asking if he can match it, but it’s quite a bit of cash.

Am I being soft, or are my morals on point?

BlindedByTheLights

1,907 posts

119 months

Thursday 22nd January
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Never hold without £££. First buyer could disappear and you’ve lost yourself other buyers and potentially cash.

eltax91

10,563 posts

228 months

Thursday 22nd January
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Sell to the first person on your doorstep with funds. Tell the other guy ‘sorry’ once it’s sold.

bobtail4x4

4,263 posts

131 months

Thursday 22nd January
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tell the first guy,

give him the option of matching, and a deposit to hold,

uktrailmonster

9,321 posts

222 months

Thursday 22nd January
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bobtail4x4 said:
tell the first guy,

give him the option of matching, and a deposit to hold,
This ^

Robin-rndgc

Original Poster:

13 posts

123 months

Thursday 22nd January
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BlindedByTheLights said:
Never hold without £££. First buyer could disappear and you ve lost yourself other buyers and potentially cash.
Yep sensible in hindsight. He did offer a deposit but I didn't take it.

Richard-D

1,932 posts

86 months

Thursday 22nd January
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eltax91 said:
Sell to the first person on your doorstep with funds. Tell the other guy sorry once it s sold.
This is always the right answer. Now you've said you'll hold though I would. When he fails to turn up/goes silent/turns up and starts bartering you can then go back to the first method though.

Nickp82

3,790 posts

115 months

Thursday 22nd January
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I’ve had this situation this week.

I wouldn’t normally hold a car but the first enquiry seemed a genuine person so I agreed to do so for a couple of days.

amongst various further enquiries was someone saying they’d pay more but couldn’t get over until the weekend.

I didn’t want to go back on my word though, even if I was regretting saying I’d hold it so the first person came, saw the car was a good one and bought it.

Morals over money. You’ve said you’ll hold it until Sunday so do that.

paul_c123

1,730 posts

15 months

Thursday 22nd January
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If you're a private seller then definitely "deposit secures" (and the corollary, no deposit means its not secured).

If you're a trader/dealer then taking a deposit before the car is seen in person means it is a distance sale, with extra consumer rights, so beware of that.

Robin-rndgc

Original Poster:

13 posts

123 months

Thursday 22nd January
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Nickp82 said:
I ve had this situation this week.

I wouldn t normally hold a car but the first enquiry seemed a genuine person so I agreed to do so for a couple of days.

amongst various further enquiries was someone saying they d pay more but couldn t get over until the weekend.

I didn t want to go back on my word though, even if I was regretting saying I d hold it so the first person came, saw the car was a good one and bought it.

Morals over money. You ve said you ll hold it until Sunday so do that.
I think I'll end up doing this. He's genuine and asking loads of questions. I've told him there's no movement on the price because of other offers so no worries about haggling on the day.

I'll write it down to experience.

Tisy

1,501 posts

14 months

Thursday 22nd January
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Richard-D said:
This is always the right answer. Now you've said you'll hold though I would. When he fails to turn up/goes silent/turns up and starts bartering you can then go back to the first method though.
This ^. If you want it holding then I need £200 bank transfer from you which is non-returnable nor refundable and an agreed date by which you will pay the balance or your deposit is gone and the car is re-advertised. No monies paid, it stays for sale on a first come first served basis.

No deposit = 99% guaranteed that you will get messed around then radio silence. And 99.99999999999% of people making offers before they've even seen the car are masssssssssssive time-wasters or scammers wanting to pay by Paypal / download a car history report from their website.

brillomaster

1,667 posts

192 months

Friday 23rd January
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Indeed, a serious buyer should have no problem with a £200 deposit.

But otherwise, its sold to the first person who actually turns up with the money. Too many time wasters, saying they'll turn up but never do.

Belle427

11,192 posts

255 months

Friday 23rd January
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Isnt there a thread running somewhere where in a similar situation the first guy that made contact and had an offer verbally accepted sued the guy selling the car as he sold it to someone else for more money and actually won?
Seems you need to be careful these days.

DaveyBoyWonder

3,486 posts

196 months

Friday 23rd January
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eltax91 said:
Sell to the first person on your doorstep with funds. Tell the other guy sorry once it s sold.
This. If you're a private seller I'd never, ever, ever sell a car to the first person that pops up and says "I'll have it". First person handing you the cash/transferring it into your account gets the car.

biggbn

29,781 posts

242 months

Friday 23rd January
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Haven't you been reading PH lately. Don't accept cash. You are then a willing aide to a black market cash only economy and probably washing money brought into the country on the back of children farming, making and smuggling Turkish Hashish and Colombian Charlie...


Tsk tsk....

OutInTheShed

12,861 posts

48 months

Friday 23rd January
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Once you've agreed to hold the car, you should feel committed.

Arguably you shouldn't agree to that in the first place, but sometimes you have to give and take.

If you want people to travel to view your car, then you encourage them to do so by holding the car until they can arrive. That might mean a few hours, or a day or two. It's a matter of judging whether they are the right person to buy the car. The person who really wants your car and will pay the right price won't travel four hours on the off-chance of it still being available. The person who turns up quicker is probably going to make you an offer.
Selling an expensive classic bike, I did well waiting for the right person to make it down from 'the North'. While waiting from him, I collected details from a couple of other potential buyers. Flogging a Hausfrau Golf for a grand, I wouldn't expect people to travel far and I wouldn't negotiate except face to face after they've seen the car.
Last time I bought a car which I couldn't view immediately, the seller kindly agreed to hold it until late the next day. I was happy to pay his price.

ZX10R NIN

29,921 posts

147 months

Friday 23rd January
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Ring the first person & ask for a deposit if they don't want to do this then sell to the first person to turn up with the money.

Tighnamara

2,562 posts

175 months

Friday 23rd January
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ZX10R NIN said:
Ring the first person & ask for a deposit if they don't want to do this then sell to the first person to turn up with the money.
The OP states the first person offered a deposit but he didn’t take it.

OutInTheShed

12,861 posts

48 months

Saturday 24th January
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Tighnamara said:
ZX10R NIN said:
Ring the first person & ask for a deposit if they don't want to do this then sell to the first person to turn up with the money.
The OP states the first person offered a deposit but he didn t take it.
It's sometimes no help taking a deposit, because the buyer can always demand it back, they just have to say the car isn't as described, pointing out some fault that's not in the advert.

If the seller and buyer make the judgement that the deal will happen, then it's reasonable for the seller to hold the car for a while or the buyer.
If either party isn't sure, then it's fair enough for the car not to be reserved.
I've been on both sides of this both ways, if I'm not sure I'll buy the car, or if the seller isn't willing to hold the car, that's fine, I'd just ask them to let me know if it's sold to avoid a wasted journey and wish them luck. If someone else buys a car I'm interested in, then at least I know it wasn't grossly over-priced.

As a seller, I've had keen enquiries from completely unsuitable buyers and from 'buyers' you know are going to offer a really low price on the drive.
Form a judgement of the person and act on it.

It all helps explain why people just take a low price as trade in or WBAC.
Or get dealers to sell their vehicles on a commission.

paul_c123

1,730 posts

15 months

Saturday 24th January
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OutInTheShed said:
It's sometimes no help taking a deposit, because the buyer can always demand it back, they just have to say the car isn't as described, pointing out some fault that's not in the advert.
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A buyer can demand it back but they can't obligate you to give it back. And a deposit is somewhat meaningless if its refundable. If you do buckle and give it back, a seller is perfectly entitled to deduct reasonable costs - for example the cost of having to advertise it again, if relevant.