Is this a red flag on MOT history?

[lornemalvo]

I was looking at this online ad for a Jaguar XK. It appeals to ne but looking at the MOT history, it seems the tyres were shot after 8500 miles, then resulted in a fail at 10000 miles. This seems very low mileage, is this a red flag?
https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1804381

[Roboticarm]

Haven't seen the MOT history, but was this and advisory at 8500 and a fail at 10k ?
If so then 10k for tyres on a V8 supercharged car is very good.

Certain cars are known to eat tyres more quickly than others.

These will probably go through rears quite regularly, was the first related to the tyres on 1 axle and the 2nd the others ?

[MDMA .]

5.0L V8, few naughty launches, easy for the tyres to be low.

[Collectingbrass]

I'd be more worried that it only did 4,000 miles a year for the first 3 years then 1,000 - 1,500 per year after that. The upper gears in the box have probably seized through not being used.

[Cambs_Stuart]

Those advisories were in 2019. I really wouldn't worry about low tread 5 years ago, just check the condition of the ones on there now.

[shtu]

If you're worrying about that MOT history on a decade-old car, you're not cut out to own a decade-old car.

https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/results?regis...

[Discombobulate]

Collectingbrass said:

I'd be more worried that it only did 4,000 miles a year for the first 3 years then 1,000 - 1,500 per year after that. The upper gears in the box have probably seized through not being used.

This is a joke... right?

[donkmeister]

I've known a couple of people buy XKs as "retirement" cars. They cherish them, drive them little.

The annual mileage seems to reflect that. My dad's retirement treat car barely seemed to do the miles between his house and the garage between services and MOTs.

I'd be looking to see if the owners have been car finance companies to see if clocking was likely, but this doesn't seem like the sort of car such a keeper would get to show off in.

Did any XKs of this era have a non-staggered tyre setup? I'm wondering if the wear indicates someone doing a tyre rotation to make the tyres last until one MOT then missing it on the next year.

[eliot]

advisory was for the front tyres and failure was for the rears

[matchmaker]

eliot said:

advisory was for the front tyres and failure was for the rears

So different tyres. What's your point? Tyres wear out.

[119]

Considering its age, that looks good, although for someone seemingly looked after it, wasn’t capable of keeping an eye on the tyres.

Bet the service history is patchy at best.

[TarquinMX5]

It's possible that the front suspension set-up / alignment was slightly out, or incorrect tyre pressures. It's quite low mileage for the front tyres but in itself doesn't mean much. It was nearly 7-years ago, no big deal, although worth a check to make sure any alignment issues weren't as a result of accident damage. Rears replaced at 12,000, no issue.

[GeniusOfLove]

This online MOT history thing is both a blessing and a curse. If you're sensible and pragmatic it is useful, but good god when you sell a car all the "I read an RAC car buyers guides" people mithering about an advisory on a corrded brake ferrule that came up once in 2016 is really, really hard work.

If you're worried about tyre advisories on a decade old (albet it expensive and beautifully prepared for sale) smoker Jag then used cars might not be for you.

If you're seriously looking at X150s don't worry too much about miles, they were superbly well and lack of use does no car any good, particularly big ones ime. I love mine but I'd feel an absolute and total plum sitting in one having paid £28k for it in 2024, and it doesn't even have a supercharger.

If you're not going to keep it forever, or if you plan to put some miles on it be aware it'll lose value like crazy too. 60k on the clock that's a £10k car at trade in/private sale and they take forever to shift.

ETA: This is how they do at trade, screen shot for one coming up at BCA and it'll be lucky to hit CAP clean, the NASP ones really struggle with slightly more interest in the very late facelifts and much more likely to hit CAP in a lovely colour like that red one.



Yes yes retail vs trade blah blah but my point is anyone spending £27k on an X150 in 2024 needs to be prepared to lose half of that the minute they pull out of the dealership.

FWIW I am looking to get maybe 15k - 18k miles out of a set of rears on my XKR, lots of motorway miles though.

Edited by GeniusOfLove on Friday 15th November 14:29

[Robertb]

TarquinMX5 said:

It's possible that the front suspension set-up / alignment was slightly out, or incorrect tyre pressures. It's quite low mileage for the front tyres but in itself doesn't mean much. It was nearly 7-years ago, no big deal, although worth a check to make sure any alignment issues weren't as a result of accident damage. Rears replaced at 12,000, no issue.

My attention was also piqued by the failure for misaligned headlights. Either the self-levelling electrics had failed, or possibly its had a knock.

[GeniusOfLove]

Robertb said:

TarquinMX5 said:

It's possible that the front suspension set-up / alignment was slightly out, or incorrect tyre pressures. It's quite low mileage for the front tyres but in itself doesn't mean much. It was nearly 7-years ago, no big deal, although worth a check to make sure any alignment issues weren't as a result of accident damage. Rears replaced at 12,000, no issue.

My attention was also piqued by the failure for misaligned headlights. Either the self-levelling electrics had failed, or possibly its had a knock.

Panel gaps all look tight as a fresh young twink, which is usual on an X150 (but unusual for an aluminium Jaguar) and the paint on the nose cone and the rest looks to match well. Obviously you always check but I wouldn't be too worried.

Very easy to break the mounts on the headlights with a light tap that does no further damage too.

I think the car is almost certainly fine, just very expensive.

[eliot]

lornemalvo said:

I was looking at this online ad for a Jaguar XK. It appeals to ne but looking at the MOT history, it seems the tyres were shot after 8500 miles, then resulted in a fail at 10000 miles. This seems very low mileage, is this a red flag?
https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1804381

I would pay more attention to the state of the front disks - looks like they have been left to go rusty and then had an italian tuneup to clean them up.

[ChocolateFrog]

matchmaker said:

eliot said:

advisory was for the front tyres and failure was for the rears

So different tyres. What's your point? Tyres wear out.

I think the point is that it could point to a car that's been tracked or atleast thrashed pretty hard.

[GeniusOfLove]

ChocolateFrog said:

matchmaker said:

eliot said:

advisory was for the front tyres and failure was for the rears

So different tyres. What's your point? Tyres wear out.

I think the point is that it could point to a car that's been tracked or atleast thrashed pretty hard.

Yes NASP XKs in old man red are a common sight at tracks up and down the country, and scorching off hot hatches from the lights

1.7 ton 380bhp cars like tyres. End of story.

[ChocolateFrog]

GeniusOfLove said:

This online MOT history thing is both a blessing and a curse. If you're sensible and pragmatic it is useful, but good god when you sell a car all the "I read an RAC car buyers guides" people mithering about an advisory on a corrded brake ferrule that came up once in 2016 is really, really hard work.

If you're worried about tyre advisories on a decade old (albet it expensive and beautifully prepared for sale) smoker Jag then used cars might not be for you.

If you're seriously looking at X150s don't worry too much about miles, they were superbly well and lack of use does no car any good, particularly big ones ime. I love mine but I'd feel an absolute and total plum sitting in one having paid £28k for it in 2024, and it doesn't even have a supercharger.

If you're not going to keep it forever, or if you plan to put some miles on it be aware it'll lose value like crazy too. 60k on the clock that's a £10k car at trade in/private sale and they take forever to shift.

ETA: This is how they do at trade, screen shot for one coming up at BCA and it'll be lucky to hit CAP clean, the NASP ones really struggle with slightly more interest in the very late facelifts and much more likely to hit CAP in a lovely colour like that red one.



Yes yes retail vs trade blah blah but my point is anyone spending £27k on an X150 in 2024 needs to be prepared to lose half of that the minute they pull out of the dealership.

FWIW I am looking to get maybe 15k - 18k miles out of a set of rears on my XKR, lots of motorway miles though.

Edited by GeniusOfLove on Friday 15th November 14:29

That's why you get to know your tester and then they just tell you verbally what the advisories are.

I hate seeing anything written on MOTs.

[ChocolateFrog]

GeniusOfLove said:

ChocolateFrog said:

matchmaker said:

eliot said:

advisory was for the front tyres and failure was for the rears

So different tyres. What's your point? Tyres wear out.

I think the point is that it could point to a car that's been tracked or atleast thrashed pretty hard.

Yes NASP XKs in old man red are a common sight at tracks up and down the country, and scorching off hot hatches from the lights

1.7 ton 380bhp cars like tyres. End of story.

My 1.8 ton 430hp car is way past that mileage and it gets thrashed all the time and the tyres are about half worn, soo not end of story.