Volvo V60 t6 phev - alternatives?
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Started commuting by car again so thinking of swapping out my trusty but rather tired 2010 Octavia scout.
I was prepared to go fully electric but I'm struggling to find a car that ticks all the boxes and knowing there is a lot of bigger battery versions on a lot of cars coming soon I'm thinking of waiting a bit longer....
Solution a PHEV. I do 50miles 2-3 days a week's, boring m25 commute, so comfort is a big factor. (Fun less so) Also need to do family duties and a few longer trips annually so want something with a decent boot.
A 2022 Volvo V60 t6 seems to tick all the boxes. Big boot, comfy, can do most of my commute on battery power (18kw version), looks pretty good.
Any reason to avoid? Better alternatives? I like the look of 330e or even a c class phev but the boots are seriously reduced because of the battery in both of those. Looking to spend less than £30k ideally...
Any help much appreciated!
I was prepared to go fully electric but I'm struggling to find a car that ticks all the boxes and knowing there is a lot of bigger battery versions on a lot of cars coming soon I'm thinking of waiting a bit longer....
Solution a PHEV. I do 50miles 2-3 days a week's, boring m25 commute, so comfort is a big factor. (Fun less so) Also need to do family duties and a few longer trips annually so want something with a decent boot.
A 2022 Volvo V60 t6 seems to tick all the boxes. Big boot, comfy, can do most of my commute on battery power (18kw version), looks pretty good.
Any reason to avoid? Better alternatives? I like the look of 330e or even a c class phev but the boots are seriously reduced because of the battery in both of those. Looking to spend less than £30k ideally...
Any help much appreciated!
Is that 50 miles per trip or 50 miles over 2 to 3 trips?
As you say the volvo was upgraded later in it's lifecycle to a 18kwh battery. The earlier models only have 11kwh and would not do a 50 mile trip on electric. For an estate I think they are the best packaged PHEV.
The other option, if you would entertain a SUV, is the Toyota Rav 4/ Suzuki Across. They do 40 miles plus on a charge and do not have a compromised boot. The battery implementation is one of the better examples, not just from a packaging perspective but from a drivability point of view. I have the lexus NX version, which is the same powertrain, and the transitions between ev and ice is unnoticeable. They do 50mpg with a flat battery and maintain their brisk 300bhp performance. Warranty on the Toyota is up to 10 years the Suzuki 7 years. I've had a conventional v90 before the Lexus and neither of them I would call fun, but both are very comfortable cruisers.
As you say the volvo was upgraded later in it's lifecycle to a 18kwh battery. The earlier models only have 11kwh and would not do a 50 mile trip on electric. For an estate I think they are the best packaged PHEV.
The other option, if you would entertain a SUV, is the Toyota Rav 4/ Suzuki Across. They do 40 miles plus on a charge and do not have a compromised boot. The battery implementation is one of the better examples, not just from a packaging perspective but from a drivability point of view. I have the lexus NX version, which is the same powertrain, and the transitions between ev and ice is unnoticeable. They do 50mpg with a flat battery and maintain their brisk 300bhp performance. Warranty on the Toyota is up to 10 years the Suzuki 7 years. I've had a conventional v90 before the Lexus and neither of them I would call fun, but both are very comfortable cruisers.
Edited by FamousPheasant on Friday 8th November 13:54
FamousPheasant said:
Is that 50 miles per trip or 50 miles over 2 to 3 trips?
As you say the volvo was upgraded later in it's lifecycle to a 18kwh battery. The earlier models only have 11kwh and would not do a 50 mile trip on electric. For an estate I think they are the best packaged PHEV.
The other option, if you would entertain a SUV, is the Toyota Rav 4/ Suzuki Across. They do 40 miles plus on a charge and do not have a compromised boot. The battery implementation is one of the better examples, not just from a packaging perspective but from a drivability point of view. I have the lexus NX version, which is the same powertrain, and the transitions between ev and ice is unnoticeable. They do 50mpg with a flat battery and maintain their brisk 300bhp performance. Warranty on the Toyota is up to 10 years the Suzuki 7 years. I've had a conventional v90 before the Lexus and neither of them I would call fun, but both are very comfortable cruisers.
50 miles per day (25 miles each way), so I would be hopeful to do most of that on battery.As you say the volvo was upgraded later in it's lifecycle to a 18kwh battery. The earlier models only have 11kwh and would not do a 50 mile trip on electric. For an estate I think they are the best packaged PHEV.
The other option, if you would entertain a SUV, is the Toyota Rav 4/ Suzuki Across. They do 40 miles plus on a charge and do not have a compromised boot. The battery implementation is one of the better examples, not just from a packaging perspective but from a drivability point of view. I have the lexus NX version, which is the same powertrain, and the transitions between ev and ice is unnoticeable. They do 50mpg with a flat battery and maintain their brisk 300bhp performance. Warranty on the Toyota is up to 10 years the Suzuki 7 years. I've had a conventional v90 before the Lexus and neither of them I would call fun, but both are very comfortable cruisers.
Edited by FamousPheasant on Friday 8th November 13:54
I've been dodging SUV for years but I'll have a look
RizzoTheRat said:
If you do look at SUV's take a look at the Volvo's too, I initially went to have a test drive of the V60 PHEV but then had a go with a XC60 T8 and it's one of the most comfortable cars I've ever driven, with the added bonus of 400+ bhp. Sadly it may be a bit too wide for us though.
Sadly XC60 pushes outside of budget for the 18kw battery option.drgoatboy said:
50 miles per day (25 miles each way), so I would be hopeful to do most of that on battery.
I've been dodging SUV for years but I'll have a look
I was also anti SUV and still am for anything remotely fun, but I must admit - for general pootling about - they are alright. I've been dodging SUV for years but I'll have a look
The Rav 4 won't do the full trip on electric unless you can charge at work.
drgoatboy said:
50 miles per day (25 miles each way), so I would be hopeful to do most of that on battery.
I've been dodging SUV for years but I'll have a look
Our XC60 with the larger battery wouldn’t manage that on battery only. Realistically it is low 40s, and in this colder weather down to mid 30s for miles on EV only. Less if you are doing motorway speeds. The V60 should do a bit better being more aerodynamic. As other posters have said, it is the most comfortable, fastest, safest and most economical car we’ve ever owned. There is a lot going for them.I've been dodging SUV for years but I'll have a look
If you can complete your entire journey on EV and only charge once a day then it’s cheap and easy motoring.
If you charge at work and make the full journey on EV then it is cheap driving, but a bit of hassle.
If you view it as a 450bhp luxury car that has the economy of a diesel without being a diesel (ours gets high 30s, low's 40s mpg when the battery is flat then it is excellent.
Why rule out an EV? Your low mileage is perfect for an EV.
If its comfort that rules out a tesla, but lexus UX, Jaaaag ipace (get the extended warranty!), maybe even a genesis gv60 should be on your list. Volvo and mercs are comfy but their EVs have shocking reliability, even worse than the ipace
If its comfort that rules out a tesla, but lexus UX, Jaaaag ipace (get the extended warranty!), maybe even a genesis gv60 should be on your list. Volvo and mercs are comfy but their EVs have shocking reliability, even worse than the ipace
jaydeeuk1 said:
Why rule out an EV? Your low mileage is perfect for an EV.
If its comfort that rules out a tesla, but lexus UX, Jaaaag ipace (get the extended warranty!), maybe even a genesis gv60 should be on your list. Volvo and mercs are comfy but their EVs have shocking reliability, even worse than the ipace
I already have an EV in the fleet. An mg4. I love it, but it's making my back ache on the commute and its not big enough to be our family car for anything more than popping to the shops.If its comfort that rules out a tesla, but lexus UX, Jaaaag ipace (get the extended warranty!), maybe even a genesis gv60 should be on your list. Volvo and mercs are comfy but their EVs have shocking reliability, even worse than the ipace
I would love another, I've tested most of the bigger ones I can afford, it's really down to a only a few I would consider in my price range. (Which will obviously change).
Phev is probably just a stop gap until what I want is widely available at a price point I can afford. Enyaq is on the list but it doesn't feel quite the right fit....
If you don't mind a Ford.....
They are doing a 2 day free test drive on the new Kuga PHEV.. Limited to 150 miles drive, but the Dealer that I went to weren't bothered about limiting the miles. Very, very, very quiet. Taut handling but still comfortable. Practical. Seamless change from battery to ICE. The 2.5 litre 4 cylinder was very muted, even at peak revs under hard acceleration. Will shred tyres off the mark in Sport mode!!
£30k will get you just into the new model, so 24/74 plate. Look for Titanium, which is base trim. Limited production (250?) but most with lots of extras. New model has (very cheap looking) Ford badge on the grille, earlier models have badge on the bonnet.
Would have had one but I am a caravanner (sorry) and it wasn't quite big enough for kit and dog....sticking with a Santa Fe. Diesel.
They are doing a 2 day free test drive on the new Kuga PHEV.. Limited to 150 miles drive, but the Dealer that I went to weren't bothered about limiting the miles. Very, very, very quiet. Taut handling but still comfortable. Practical. Seamless change from battery to ICE. The 2.5 litre 4 cylinder was very muted, even at peak revs under hard acceleration. Will shred tyres off the mark in Sport mode!!
£30k will get you just into the new model, so 24/74 plate. Look for Titanium, which is base trim. Limited production (250?) but most with lots of extras. New model has (very cheap looking) Ford badge on the grille, earlier models have badge on the bonnet.
Would have had one but I am a caravanner (sorry) and it wasn't quite big enough for kit and dog....sticking with a Santa Fe. Diesel.
AlwynMike said:
If you don't mind a Ford.....
They are doing a 2 day free test drive on the new Kuga PHEV.. Limited to 150 miles drive, but the Dealer that I went to weren't bothered about limiting the miles. Very, very, very quiet. Taut handling but still comfortable. Practical. Seamless change from battery to ICE. The 2.5 litre 4 cylinder was very muted, even at peak revs under hard acceleration. Will shred tyres off the mark in Sport mode!!
£30k will get you just into the new model, so 24/74 plate. Look for Titanium, which is base trim. Limited production (250?) but most with lots of extras. New model has (very cheap looking) Ford badge on the grille, earlier models have badge on the bonnet.
Would have had one but I am a caravanner (sorry) and it wasn't quite big enough for kit and dog....sticking with a Santa Fe. Diesel.
Thanks Mike, annoyingly none of my local dealers do 24hr test drives (even though ford promise they do), but I'll check out the Kuga. Admittedly not something I really fancy but always worth a look! Does sound like good valueThey are doing a 2 day free test drive on the new Kuga PHEV.. Limited to 150 miles drive, but the Dealer that I went to weren't bothered about limiting the miles. Very, very, very quiet. Taut handling but still comfortable. Practical. Seamless change from battery to ICE. The 2.5 litre 4 cylinder was very muted, even at peak revs under hard acceleration. Will shred tyres off the mark in Sport mode!!
£30k will get you just into the new model, so 24/74 plate. Look for Titanium, which is base trim. Limited production (250?) but most with lots of extras. New model has (very cheap looking) Ford badge on the grille, earlier models have badge on the bonnet.
Would have had one but I am a caravanner (sorry) and it wasn't quite big enough for kit and dog....sticking with a Santa Fe. Diesel.
Take a good look at the E400d, I have the coupe version & it's a great car for eating up the miles:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410295...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410024...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410295...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410024...
drgoatboy said:
Started commuting by car again so thinking of swapping out my trusty but rather tired 2010 Octavia scout.
I was prepared to go fully electric but I'm struggling to find a car that ticks all the boxes and knowing there is a lot of bigger battery versions on a lot of cars coming soon I'm thinking of waiting a bit longer....
Solution a PHEV. I do 50miles 2-3 days a week's, boring m25 commute, so comfort is a big factor. (Fun less so) Also need to do family duties and a few longer trips annually so want something with a decent boot.
A 2022 Volvo V60 t6 seems to tick all the boxes. Big boot, comfy, can do most of my commute on battery power (18kw version), looks pretty good.
Any reason to avoid? Better alternatives? I like the look of 330e or even a c class phev but the boots are seriously reduced because of the battery in both of those. Looking to spend less than £30k ideally...
Any help much appreciated!
I've only had a quick look but read up on the volvo erad. I don't know if it's a real concern or not on that particular year and model but worth a read just in case. I was prepared to go fully electric but I'm struggling to find a car that ticks all the boxes and knowing there is a lot of bigger battery versions on a lot of cars coming soon I'm thinking of waiting a bit longer....
Solution a PHEV. I do 50miles 2-3 days a week's, boring m25 commute, so comfort is a big factor. (Fun less so) Also need to do family duties and a few longer trips annually so want something with a decent boot.
A 2022 Volvo V60 t6 seems to tick all the boxes. Big boot, comfy, can do most of my commute on battery power (18kw version), looks pretty good.
Any reason to avoid? Better alternatives? I like the look of 330e or even a c class phev but the boots are seriously reduced because of the battery in both of those. Looking to spend less than £30k ideally...
Any help much appreciated!
ZX10R NIN said:
Take a good look at the E400d, I have the coupe version & it's a great car for eating up the miles:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410295...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410024...
Thanks. Nice cars for sure but I'm most definitely allergic to diesels! https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410295...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410024...
egoold said:
i ran a T6 phev for 60.000 miles , 18Kw, brilliant car but don't think i ever saw more than 43 miles on full charge, but other than that absolutely faultless and really quick in a straight line
Awesome, thanks for that. Interesting on the 43 miles. Good to know, wouldn't quite be enough range to do the work run then...Was servicing expensive do you recall? Think it's on an annual service regime if Google is to be believed...
drgoatboy said:
Thanks. Nice cars for sure but I'm most definitely allergic to diesels!
In which case take a look at the E53:https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202411045...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202409294...
drgoatboy said:
Any reason to avoid? Better alternatives? I like the look of 330e or even a c class phev but the boots are seriously reduced because of the battery in both of those. Looking to spend less than £30k ideally...
If it helps we have a 330e The 330e is great but it is a very small boot. You won’t get all your journey on electric I’d knock 30% of the claimed EV range. I think the Volvo in the real world would be very tight!In all honesty I’d just go full EV.
Audi Q4 E-Tron might be a strong option.
I’d also recommend booking a test drive in a Tesla honestly the ride is nowhere near as bad as people make out and seats are great.
CG2020UK said:
If it helps we have a 330e The 330e is great but it is a very small boot. You won’t get all your journey on electric I’d knock 30% of the claimed EV range. I think the Volvo in the real world would be very tight!
In all honesty I’d just go full EV.
Audi Q4 E-Tron might be a strong option.
I’d also recommend booking a test drive in a Tesla honestly the ride is nowhere near as bad as people make out and seats are great.
Thanks for that. Going to look at an enyaq and a model Y tomorrow.In all honesty I’d just go full EV.
Audi Q4 E-Tron might be a strong option.
I’d also recommend booking a test drive in a Tesla honestly the ride is nowhere near as bad as people make out and seats are great.
Did have a look round a V60 today but it was rather leggy. Nice inside but contrary to what I hoped and was lead to believe I didn't instantly find the most comfortable seats in the world ...
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