How much will WBAC reduce offer?

How much will WBAC reduce offer?

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Robertb

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2,092 posts

245 months

Monday 7th October
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We've got a 2004 3.0i X5 which sadly comprehensively failed its MOT and we've decided its time to move on so I need to sell it. WeBuyAnyCar have made a surprisingly good offer, though clearly I'll need to get it to the depot.

Some other lot have offered under half what WBAC have offered, but will come and get it.

I've been as honest at the WBAC website will facilitate in terms of disclosing the issues, but the fields have limited selectable content. Does their system 'read' the MOT history as part of the offer process? How much are they likely to chip off their offer when I get there?

What I want to avoid is getting the car there and ending up worse off than if we sold to the collection people.

We're not talking a fortune in 'powerfully built PH director' terms, but I'd like to get the best outcome we can.

Edited by Robertb on Monday 7th October 12:35

Challo

10,830 posts

162 months

Monday 7th October
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As long as you have been as honest as possible then I should suspect they shouldnt reduce the price that much.

They will probably chip off a little, but it's all about the honesty of the description.

Didn't know they bought MOT failures.

The Rotrex Kid

31,667 posts

167 months

Monday 7th October
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Challo said:
As long as you have been as honest as possible then I should suspect they shouldnt reduce the price that much.

They will probably chip off a little, but it's all about the honesty of the description.

Didn't know they bought MOT failures.
They will, but their system assumes the car has 6 months left, so unless you tell it any different......

Be prepared for them to give it a kicking OP. It's their business model, as long as you keep that in mind and have a firm stop where you want to let it go.

FYI - My wifes car on the normal valuation comes in at £7275

Adjust for no MOT drops it to £6500.

Adjust to 'some' history from full is £6405

Adjust to 'none' - £6350

Adjust to 1 key - £6115

Adjust for 2 kerbed wheels - £5945

It wouldn't allow me to adjust any more (booooo) but you can see how the game works. They will pick it apart and amend £50/75/100 here/there (plus the £75 admin fee) and your £7275 becomes £5500 maybe?

ymwoods

2,186 posts

184 months

Monday 7th October
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I was one of the lucky ones by the sounds of it. I sold an L200 to them 3ish years ago and I walked out with more than the offer on the website. It was an amazing condition though in fairness.

LimaDelta

6,950 posts

225 months

Monday 7th October
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I've sold three cars through WBAC or similar, and all three have paid exactly what they originally offered. As long as you are honest with the appraisal I've found them fine to deal with.

66HFM

496 posts

32 months

Monday 7th October
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If you are worried about the cost of taking it there as it doesn't have a current MOT, book it in for an MOT on the same day you take it there and if on the very odd chance that you get stopped you can get the garage to confirm that you are taking it for an MOT...

OutInTheShed

9,361 posts

33 months

Monday 7th October
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There was a thread in SP&L a few weeks ago.
Somebody's Dad sold a shed to WBAC and they slashed the offer from the thick end of a grand to small change.
The car was later spotted on a forecourt for over a grand?


bennno

12,732 posts

276 months

Monday 7th October
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Robertb said:
We've got a 2004 3.0i X5 which sadly comprehensively failed its MOT and we've decided its time to move on so I need to sell it. WeBuyAnyCar have made a surprisingly good offer, though clearly I'll need to get it to the depot.

Some other lot have offered under half what WBAC have offered, but will come and get it.

I've been as honest at the WBAC website will facilitate in terms of disclosing the issues, but the fields have limited selectable content. Does their system 'read' the MOT history as part of the offer process? How much are they likely to chip off their offer when I get there?

What I want to avoid is getting the car there and ending up worse off than if we sold to the collection people.

We're not talking a fortune in 'powerfully built PH director' terms, but I'd like to get the best outcome we can.

Edited by Robertb on Monday 7th October 12:35
Did you tell wbac that it had no MOT?

blue_haddock

3,866 posts

74 months

Monday 7th October
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ymwoods said:
I was one of the lucky ones by the sounds of it. I sold an L200 to them 3ish years ago and I walked out with more than the offer on the website. It was an amazing condition though in fairness.
Three years ago prices were going nuts as dealers couldnt get their hands on stock so were bidding daft amounts for most things.

Robertb

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2,092 posts

245 months

Monday 7th October
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bennno said:
Did you tell wbac that it had no MOT?
Yup.

tim0409

4,845 posts

166 months

Monday 7th October
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OutInTheShed said:
There was a thread in SP&L a few weeks ago.
Somebody's Dad sold a shed to WBAC and they slashed the offer from the thick end of a grand to small change.
The car was later spotted on a forecourt for over a grand?
That’s not surprising; they are always going to find non-disclosed damage on a shed they have valued at a grand. WBAC then sell it at BCA (making a profit obviously), the buyer then pays an auction premium on the sale price then has to prep it and retail it for a decent profit, so you can easily see how it will be on a forecourt for over a £1000.

DaveH23

3,292 posts

177 months

Monday 7th October
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Isn't there a few threads on here stating Motorway are usually better than WBAC.

You could try them OP.

Dog Biscuit

347 posts

4 months

Monday 7th October
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Just developing the theme here...

What would happen if an unscrupulous seller passed off a lemon. Say a knackered gearbox or a car with HGF?

Would WBAC come knocking demanding money back or reversing the purchase?

CG2020UK

2,027 posts

47 months

Monday 7th October
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Dog Biscuit said:
Just developing the theme here...

What would happen if an unscrupulous seller passed off a lemon. Say a knackered gearbox or a car with HGF?

Would WBAC come knocking demanding money back or reversing the purchase?
I’d say the vast majority sold are lemons.

Always pay for instant transfer so this can’t happen.

Is stories of them turning round where people having done so saying take less money or they won’t buy it.

Robertb

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2,092 posts

245 months

Tuesday 8th October
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DaveH23 said:
Isn't there a few threads on here stating Motorway are usually better than WBAC.

You could try them OP.
Thanks - just checked and sadly Motorway won't play due to the car's age. However, their site referred me to the Car Buying Group, who appear to have matched the WBAC quote (though I've not entered any info beyond the reg no and mileage and it seems the offer assumes 2 months MOT) and will do free home collection! Will explore further when I can do their mobile appraisal.




Edited by Robertb on Tuesday 8th October 10:44

Robertb

Original Poster:

2,092 posts

245 months

Tuesday 8th October
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66HFM said:
If you are worried about the cost of taking it there as it doesn't have a current MOT, book it in for an MOT on the same day you take it there and if on the very odd chance that you get stopped you can get the garage to confirm that you are taking it for an MOT...
Excellent plan! I think there is a Halfords MOT centre round the corner.

Justin85

69 posts

140 months

Tuesday 8th October
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From my limited experience, any online valuations for the car are based on it be in Grade 1 condition, which is brand-new showroom fresh. Even though you're selling a 20 year old car with XXXXXX miles on it and you've told them that, the price they suggest is based on it being Grade 1. Hence, when you take it to them and it isn't Grade 1, but in a condition commensurate to it's age/mileage they knock some money off.

It our case, a 2018 54k miles Volvo V90 in very good condition indeed for a 5 year old car was categorised as Grade 3 (because it had more than 3 stone chips on the front/bonnet!) and about £500 was knocked off the valuation. As the valuation was £2k more than the trade-in value we'd been offered by a main dealer I wasn't bothered.

I'd assume a 2004 X5 3.0i is worth £2k with an MoT, so I can't imagine they'd give you much beyond £500 in reality.


CrippsCorner

3,015 posts

188 months

Tuesday 8th October
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The Rotrex Kid said:
Challo said:
As long as you have been as honest as possible then I should suspect they shouldnt reduce the price that much.

They will probably chip off a little, but it's all about the honesty of the description.

Didn't know they bought MOT failures.
They will, but their system assumes the car has 6 months left, so unless you tell it any different......

Be prepared for them to give it a kicking OP. It's their business model, as long as you keep that in mind and have a firm stop where you want to let it go.

FYI - My wifes car on the normal valuation comes in at £7275

Adjust for no MOT drops it to £6500.

Adjust to 'some' history from full is £6405

Adjust to 'none' - £6350

Adjust to 1 key - £6115

Adjust for 2 kerbed wheels - £5945

It wouldn't allow me to adjust any more (booooo) but you can see how the game works. They will pick it apart and amend £50/75/100 here/there (plus the £75 admin fee) and your £7275 becomes £5500 maybe?
Interesting how little difference service history makes. I've seen a couple of cars recently which have been 4-6 years without a service... guess some people just don't see the value in them.

Robertb

Original Poster:

2,092 posts

245 months

Tuesday 8th October
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Justin85 said:
From my limited experience, any online valuations for the car are based on it be in Grade 1 condition, which is brand-new showroom fresh. Even though you're selling a 20 year old car with XXXXXX miles on it and you've told them that, the price they suggest is based on it being Grade 1. Hence, when you take it to them and it isn't Grade 1, but in a condition commensurate to it's age/mileage they knock some money off.

It our case, a 2018 54k miles Volvo V90 in very good condition indeed for a 5 year old car was categorised as Grade 3 (because it had more than 3 stone chips on the front/bonnet!) and about £500 was knocked off the valuation. As the valuation was £2k more than the trade-in value we'd been offered by a main dealer I wasn't bothered.

I'd assume a 2004 X5 3.0i is worth £2k with an MoT, so I can't imagine they'd give you much beyond £500 in reality.
Funnily enough that's what I was offered by the independent lot, while WBAC have offered £1100 despite the MOT failure and my assessment of the condition as fair. Hence my scepticism...