Year old XC60 - alternatives for 40k?
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Morning PH,
Looking at a mid size SUV, around the 35k-40k mark.
Have considered the usual - Merc GLC, BMW X3, Volvo XC60.
XC60 appears to be ridiculously good value compared to others - there’s a ton of mid spec petrols/diesels, all 2023 cars, with low miles (under 10k) in the 35k-40k bracket, all at dealers. Currently 100+ in the network, pick your colour.
By comparison, the X3 (which was my first port of call) offers nowhere near as good value - in the same price bracket, you’re looking at least a year older, with 2 or 3 times the miles, and very basic spec.
Is there anything else I should consider here? It’ll be doing 20k - 25k miles a year, ideally need a warranty that’s decent and extendable at not too horrendous cost.
On a side note - anyone know why there’s so many XC60’s available at this price at the moment? It feels like too good a deal…but then I’m a pessimistic sod!
Cheers
Looking at a mid size SUV, around the 35k-40k mark.
Have considered the usual - Merc GLC, BMW X3, Volvo XC60.
XC60 appears to be ridiculously good value compared to others - there’s a ton of mid spec petrols/diesels, all 2023 cars, with low miles (under 10k) in the 35k-40k bracket, all at dealers. Currently 100+ in the network, pick your colour.
By comparison, the X3 (which was my first port of call) offers nowhere near as good value - in the same price bracket, you’re looking at least a year older, with 2 or 3 times the miles, and very basic spec.
Is there anything else I should consider here? It’ll be doing 20k - 25k miles a year, ideally need a warranty that’s decent and extendable at not too horrendous cost.
On a side note - anyone know why there’s so many XC60’s available at this price at the moment? It feels like too good a deal…but then I’m a pessimistic sod!
Cheers
I don't dwell in this price bracket, but I'd have thought this was almost completely down to branding/badge, ie most of those with that money to spend will see the BMW or Merc as more premium/just better/and they know their peers will too etc.
If the price was the same so might you? i mean the Volvo is coming on your radar becuase of the value proposition, there are many folk out there that won't have a Volvo or Jags as "they're old mans cars" or some other cliche so the additional value won't effect their decision?
If the price was the same so might you? i mean the Volvo is coming on your radar becuase of the value proposition, there are many folk out there that won't have a Volvo or Jags as "they're old mans cars" or some other cliche so the additional value won't effect their decision?
Scootersp said:
I don't dwell in this price bracket, but I'd have thought this was almost completely down to branding/badge, ie most of those with that money to spend will see the BMW or Merc as more premium/just better/and they know their peers will too etc.
If the price was the same so might you? i mean the Volvo is coming on your radar becuase of the value proposition, there are many folk out there that won't have a Volvo or Jags as "they're old mans cars" or some other cliche so the additional value won't effect their decision?
Good point, well made. If the price was the same so might you? i mean the Volvo is coming on your radar becuase of the value proposition, there are many folk out there that won't have a Volvo or Jags as "they're old mans cars" or some other cliche so the additional value won't effect their decision?
Main reason for looking at the XC60 is they seem to be compared to the X3 quite a bit in reviews, road tests etc, so thought it’d be worth a look - was a bit shocked at the value difference! As a result it’s definitely taken over front running pending a test drive…online views seem to be a mixed bag.
Having 100 used 2023 XC60's for sale is a very small number in reality.
An alternative is the Genesis GV70 I've supplied a few now & have to admit they're a classy car:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202406281...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202409113...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202406251...
An alternative is the Genesis GV70 I've supplied a few now & have to admit they're a classy car:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202406281...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202409113...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202406251...
I presume you are looking a diesel. I would consider a used approved Audi SQ5. They'd be a little older (around 2021), but my view is that you are better on a shallower part of the depreciation curve. Over 500 nM torque would give great mid-range grunt on the motorway.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202408193...
fflump said:
I presume you are looking a diesel. I would consider a used approved Audi SQ5. They'd be a little older (around 2021), but my view is that you are better on a shallower part of the depreciation curve. Over 500 nM torque would give great mid-range grunt on the motorway.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202408193...
Thanks for this, hadn’t considered the SQ5 and I did really enjoy the 3.0 tdi unit in the past.https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202408193...
Petrol isn’t out of the question, the TFSI unit in my current S3 has been surprisingly fuel efficient given the performance on tap. Just naturally went for diesel given the SUV aspect. Commute is 40 miles, mix of A and B roads so if people think petrol is a good shout, I’m open to it
ZX10R NIN said:
Having 100 used 2023 XC60's for sale is a very small number in reality.
An alternative is the Genesis GV70 I've supplied a few now & have to admit they're a classy car:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202406281...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202409113...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202406251...
Stuck 2k miles on one in Florida over 2 weeks. An alternative is the Genesis GV70 I've supplied a few now & have to admit they're a classy car:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202406281...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202409113...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202406251...
Fantastic car with brilliant practicality, good comfort, decent turn of pace and most importantly feels like it’s built like a tank that will last forever. Also the fastest cooling aircon I’ve ever experienced and seats are great.
In the flesh it looks brilliant
ZX10R NIN said:
Having 100 used 2023 XC60's for sale is a very small number in reality.
An alternative is the Genesis GV70 I've supplied a few now & have to admit they're a classy car:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202406281...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202409113...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202406251...
Cheers, never even knew these existed - Hyundai built?An alternative is the Genesis GV70 I've supplied a few now & have to admit they're a classy car:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202406281...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202409113...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202406251...
I'm in a similar boat, with a similar list!
I test-drove a Lexus NX350h (2.5 petrol hybrid) yesterday and loved it. It has a really quiet, luxurious cabin and a soft, comfortable ride with enough power for my needs (I must be getting old). But then I started reading about the CANbus vulnerability/thefts. I'm trying to make sense of the current situation with that and which models/years are an issue.
The salesman said they offer up to 10 years of warranty and will renew it for free if you get it serviced at Lexus (minor service is ~£350 and major ~£550, which is reasonable).
Possibly an addition to your list for consideration, but it seems Lexus really dropped the ball with this canbus issue and how they are (or aren't) addressing it.
I test-drove a Lexus NX350h (2.5 petrol hybrid) yesterday and loved it. It has a really quiet, luxurious cabin and a soft, comfortable ride with enough power for my needs (I must be getting old). But then I started reading about the CANbus vulnerability/thefts. I'm trying to make sense of the current situation with that and which models/years are an issue.
The salesman said they offer up to 10 years of warranty and will renew it for free if you get it serviced at Lexus (minor service is ~£350 and major ~£550, which is reasonable).
Possibly an addition to your list for consideration, but it seems Lexus really dropped the ball with this canbus issue and how they are (or aren't) addressing it.
Edited by BallyK on Monday 23 September 13:47
I've just ticked over 40,000 miles in a 2022 B4 diesel XC60 Inscription, get 40-45mpg mixed driving (50mpg on steady motorway cruise), and coming from a string of Mercs (E, CLS, C) feel its as well built as any of those were - don't have a single creak or rattle anywhere.
I can't suggest alternatives as I'd struggle to know what to replace it with! It's a good car to do lots of miles in so would suit your 20-25k per annum perfectly I reckon.
I can't suggest alternatives as I'd struggle to know what to replace it with! It's a good car to do lots of miles in so would suit your 20-25k per annum perfectly I reckon.
I think the XC60 is a really great car - generally not a great value proposition brand new (as with most higher ticket Volvos) but used they certainly are. Personally I would say the T6 Recharge or T8 would be the way to go, maybe drop the year back to 2022 if needed (still post facelift). Over a few thousand miles i got 40mpg in a T6 Recharge. I thought the pilot assist was generally very good, (although some are critical as its not got a capacitive wheel) and it didn't hang about at all when needed, despite being heavy.
My only gripe was that moving off from standstill isn't super smooth, so if you are parallel parking in a space with 6 inches gap at each end, you have to give it a pretty nerveracking amount of throttle (and quick reactions on the brakes) to edge it back and forth! I will conceed that I avoid autos usually, so that might be the status quo, and I probably was regularly trying to put it in too smaller spaces...
The only minor thing to watch out for is that they are the current go to for all the main hire companies in the Large SUV segment, so 6 to 12 month old mid-high trim cars could well be ex rentals. New volvos also aren't necessarily the most reliable things in the world reportedly, but I only know that anecdotally.
My only gripe was that moving off from standstill isn't super smooth, so if you are parallel parking in a space with 6 inches gap at each end, you have to give it a pretty nerveracking amount of throttle (and quick reactions on the brakes) to edge it back and forth! I will conceed that I avoid autos usually, so that might be the status quo, and I probably was regularly trying to put it in too smaller spaces...
The only minor thing to watch out for is that they are the current go to for all the main hire companies in the Large SUV segment, so 6 to 12 month old mid-high trim cars could well be ex rentals. New volvos also aren't necessarily the most reliable things in the world reportedly, but I only know that anecdotally.
Edited by jagb on Monday 23 September 17:21
A year and 12k miles into owning our 2023 XC60 and we love it - we wouldn’t swap it for anything else. Big enough, super comfortable, ridiculously fast, ridiculously cheap to run (plug in hybrid), ridiculously safe, interior wasn’t designed by someone who loves recreating the look of coal scuttles or bling jewellery boxes.
When you say you don’t have the facility to charge, is that in terms of not having a charge point fitted or you have no off street parking at all?
If it’s the former, for 30k you will get a very nice EV with blistering performance and a fuel bill that will be something like 20-25% vs ICE
If it’s the former, for 30k you will get a very nice EV with blistering performance and a fuel bill that will be something like 20-25% vs ICE
jagb said:
I think the XC60 is a really great car - generally not a great value proposition brand new (as with most higher ticket Volvos) but used they certainly are. Personally I would say the T6 Recharge or T8 would be the way to go, maybe drop the year back to 2022 if needed (still post facelift). Over a few thousand miles i got 40mpg in a T6 Recharge. I thought the pilot assist was generally very good, (although some are critical as its not got a capacitive wheel) and it didn't hang about at all when needed, despite being heavy.
My only gripe was that moving off from standstill isn't super smooth, so if you are parallel parking in a space with 6 inches gap at each end, you have to give it a pretty nerveracking amount of throttle (and quick reactions on the brakes) to edge it back and forth! I will conceed that I avoid autos usually, so that might be the status quo, and I probably was regularly trying to put it in too smaller spaces...
The only minor thing to watch out for is that they are the current go to for all the main hire companies in the Large SUV segment, so 6 to 12 month old mid-high trim cars could well be ex rentals. New volvos also aren't necessarily the most reliable things in the world reportedly, but I only know that anecdotally.
A few years ago we bought a 10 month old Merc C class wagon, which was way cheaper than BMW and Audi equivalents. Merc dealers had all taken some from one of the big hire companies. Car was good, with the benefit of two years manufacturer warranty remaining. If that's the reason XC60s are currently cheap, I'd say take advantage.My only gripe was that moving off from standstill isn't super smooth, so if you are parallel parking in a space with 6 inches gap at each end, you have to give it a pretty nerveracking amount of throttle (and quick reactions on the brakes) to edge it back and forth! I will conceed that I avoid autos usually, so that might be the status quo, and I probably was regularly trying to put it in too smaller spaces...
The only minor thing to watch out for is that they are the current go to for all the main hire companies in the Large SUV segment, so 6 to 12 month old mid-high trim cars could well be ex rentals. New volvos also aren't necessarily the most reliable things in the world reportedly, but I only know that anecdotally.
Edited by jagb on Monday 23 September 17:21
We've had a T5 petrol XC40 for the last year and it's been great to date.
Jag_NE said:
When you say you don’t have the facility to charge, is that in terms of not having a charge point fitted or you have no off street parking at all?
If it’s the former, for 30k you will get a very nice EV with blistering performance and a fuel bill that will be something like 20-25% vs ICE
Unfortunately the latter - house move will take place in approximately the next 6 months which will provide off street parking, charger could be fitted then if required.If it’s the former, for 30k you will get a very nice EV with blistering performance and a fuel bill that will be something like 20-25% vs ICE
On that note, is it worth seeking a T6 or T8 and running on ICE only for 6 months I wonder?
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