Avoiding scammers when selling privately deposit paid

Avoiding scammers when selling privately deposit paid

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Pizzaman19

Original Poster:

31 posts

18 months

Monday 9th September
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So I have had my £17k car advertised on a Facebook group dedicated to that model.

It hasn’t received any interest until a few days ago from a potential buyer that stated that he was going to look at a couple of examples in London but mine came up a better spec and year and he wants to buy it pending inspection. The price he offered is a few k short of the asking bit it’s a cat s and I’m willing to sell at the price he offered.

So he told me he has booked one way train tickets for him and his girlfriend and paid £750 deposit.

His social media checks out and my bank confirmed his deposit is fine and came from a verified account at the same bank as mine. I googled his name and his linked in profile comes up and looks fine.

He also asked for a walk around video before sending the deposit

All sound legit ?
Anything I should be aware of ?

I intend to meet them at a new house I just bought but I don’t yet live there.

Any test drive will be subject to valid driving license and insurance in his name - has to be insurance to drive my car fully comp not TPFT.

It’s keyless ignition so the key can remain in my pocket.

I will only accept bank transfer or cash deposit at my bank branch.

Any advice welcomed

RATATTAK

12,930 posts

196 months

Monday 9th September
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Pizzaman19 said:
So ............

Any advice welcomed
Never start a sentence with the word 'So' ...
wink

M4cruiser

4,086 posts

157 months

Monday 9th September
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All sounds ok so far.
Just watch out for usual scams, and oil in the coolant!

What's your plan if he sees it and changes his mind, wants the £750 back?

Pizzaman19

Original Poster:

31 posts

18 months

Monday 9th September
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M4cruiser said:
All sounds ok so far.
Just watch out for usual scams, and oil in the coolant!

What's your plan if he sees it and changes his mind, wants the £750 back?
Thanks for the reply.
I suppose I’d have to give it back to him.

sparkythecat

7,961 posts

262 months

Monday 9th September
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If he has no insurance, he can buy insurance by the hour suitable for test drives in minutes. Cuvva is one such company offering this type of insurance

RedAndy

1,262 posts

161 months

Monday 9th September
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Pizzaman19 said:
I intend to meet them at a new house I just bought but I don’t yet live there.
...and YOU'RE worried HE'S the scammer... silly

rlg43p

1,280 posts

256 months

Monday 9th September
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Pizzaman19 said:
Any test drive will be subject to valid driving license and insurance in his name - has to be insurance to drive my car fully comp not TPFT.
Veygo is great for this (owned by Admiral). Usually reasonably priced and quick to set up. I have used it frequently; also for when I want to loan my car to the kids when necessary.

Andy665

3,806 posts

235 months

Tuesday 10th September
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Nothing there that rings alarm bells to me and as a buyer I have done very similar to what your buyer has done

FilH

749 posts

151 months

Tuesday 10th September
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RedAndy said:
Pizzaman19 said:
I intend to meet them at a new house I just bought but I don’t yet live there.
...and YOU'RE worried HE'S the scammer... silly
Was about to mention that, is the car registered on the log book at the new address? As I would be worried your scamming me with a stolen car

66HFM

496 posts

32 months

Tuesday 10th September
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How far is he travelling to see / buy your car, as presumably some distance if they've booked train tickets?

Make sure you right out a receipt for the sale of it, AA has a good example.

As others have said, if I was him I would be nervous about the car not being registered to where you're intending to meet him.

Pizzaman19

Original Poster:

31 posts

18 months

Tuesday 10th September
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Thanks all.

The only reason it’s not at my current home is that I live in a terrace and there is no parking. I also don’t want to risk scuffs from other cars when parked on a street where parking is very limited and tight. Simple as that. It’s only around the corner from where I live so if he wants to purchase we can go to my home to do the paperwork.

Terminator X

16,327 posts

211 months

Tuesday 10th September
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RedAndy said:
Pizzaman19 said:
I intend to meet them at a new house I just bought but I don’t yet live there.
...and YOU'RE worried HE'S the scammer... silly
I'd do the same eg meet elsewhere to make sure the buyer checks out then back to the house to check paperwork. Visions of 5 burly lads turning up at the house un-announced ...

TX.

M4cruiser

4,086 posts

157 months

Tuesday 10th September
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Pizzaman19 said:
So he told me he has booked one way train tickets for him and his girlfriend and paid £750 deposit.

^ Red flag there, i missed it earlier.
Nobody books one-way train tickets in this situation, because it's only another 1% (ish) to add the return at the same time, as an insurance against not getting the car (for any reason) on the day.

Pizzaman19

Original Poster:

31 posts

18 months

Tuesday 10th September
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M4cruiser said:
^ Red flag there, i missed it earlier.
Nobody books one-way train tickets in this situation, because it's only another 1% (ish) to add the return at the same time, as an insurance against not getting the car (for any reason) on the day.
Agreed. Red flag hence my original post.
He said he was coming with his GF for company - my mechanic is going to be with me for company too.

That said he is going to get a 17k car for 3k below asking so maybe to him it’s a no brainer.

He just messaged me asking if Saturday was ok as funds had. It cleared yet. To me that’s a case of - it’s raining all day tomorrow so let’s change the date.

In this day and age funds clear instantly

He sent a screenshot of his booking and some text. I can see he is on LTE1 not seen that here before just 4G or 5 G

Am I overthinking this ?




Save Ferris

2,703 posts

220 months

Wednesday 11th September
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M4cruiser said:
Pizzaman19 said:
So he told me he has booked one way train tickets for him and his girlfriend and paid £750 deposit.

^ Red flag there, i missed it earlier.
Nobody books one-way train tickets in this situation, because it's only another 1% (ish) to add the return at the same time, as an insurance against not getting the car (for any reason) on the day.
Some people do. I did last year when i went from Hampshire to Devon to pick up my Megane.

JungTheForeman

67 posts

94 months

Wednesday 11th September
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M4cruiser said:
^ Red flag there, i missed it earlier.
Nobody books one-way train tickets in this situation, because it's only another 1% (ish) to add the return at the same time, as an insurance against not getting the car (for any reason) on the day.
I booked one way train tickets for a 5 hour train journey (three trains) to pick up an XKR I'd paid deposit on...

Turned out to be a massively misdescribed dog... needless to say I bought train tickets home after viewing.

I'm not sure where you're getting 1% from - I've just checked and it's over double the price if I get a return?

Anyway, surely the only reason he won't buy the car is if you've mis-described it... he's clearly knows what he wants?

Sheepshanks

35,018 posts

126 months

Wednesday 11th September
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JungTheForeman said:
I booked one way train tickets for a 5 hour train journey (three trains) to pick up an XKR I'd paid deposit on...

Turned out to be a massively misdescribed dog... needless to say I bought train tickets home after viewing.

I'm not sure where you're getting 1% from - I've just checked and it's over double the price if I get a return?
I’ve read multiple stories on here of people travelling to buy cars and they all say bought one-way ticket.


OP being at different address is a bit off - doesn’t buyer lose HPI protection if the deal is not done at V5’s address?

PoorCarCollector

128 posts

27 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Pizzaman19 said:
M4cruiser said:
^ Red flag there, i missed it earlier.
Nobody books one-way train tickets in this situation, because it's only another 1% (ish) to add the return at the same time, as an insurance against not getting the car (for any reason) on the day.
Agreed. Red flag hence my original post.
He said he was coming with his GF for company - my mechanic is going to be with me for company too.

That said he is going to get a 17k car for 3k below asking so maybe to him it’s a no brainer.

He just messaged me asking if Saturday was ok as funds had. It cleared yet. To me that’s a case of - it’s raining all day tomorrow so let’s change the date.

In this day and age funds clear instantly

He sent a screenshot of his booking and some text. I can see he is on LTE1 not seen that here before just 4G or 5 G

Am I overthinking this ?

Wow! Yes, you certainly are overthinking this, or you're on the wind up??

The poor guy is just trying to buy a car!

Pizzaman19

Original Poster:

31 posts

18 months

Wednesday 11th September
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I not at all, just over cautious i suppose

M4cruiser

4,086 posts

157 months

Wednesday 11th September
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JungTheForeman said:
M4cruiser said:
^ Red flag there, i missed it earlier.
Nobody books one-way train tickets in this situation, because it's only another 1% (ish) to add the return at the same time, as an insurance against not getting the car (for any reason) on the day.
I'm not sure where you're getting 1% from - I've just checked and it's over double the price if I get a return?
Well, here's an example, single £71.40, return £72.70 (only 1.8% more), this is how it works down here:-