£16k fun daily

[AlexNJ89]

Looking for a daily tootler that's comfortable, good on long journeys and has a bit of character for the odd fun road.

Must be 4-door
Petrol
At least 280bhp
Good to drive
Good sound system
Comfortable
Automatic with a good gearbox.

I prefer bigger engines rather than turbo-charged.

I would consider a hybrid but I live in an apartment building so the benefit may be lost on me.

Running costs aren't an issue, I'll pay more of it's a premium brand.

MPG isn't an issue so long as I get character and power.

Shortlist so far:
Jaguar XE V6 S
B8 RS4
Early Panamera V8
Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce
Jaguar XFR S/C
Jaguar XJ
BMW 650i Gran Coupe
BMW 750i

Have I missed any others?

[snotrag]

Thats got Mercedes E500 or E63 all over it.

Estates remain quite soiught after but Saloons are generally a fair bit cheaper. Awesome cars, very non-shouty compared to Audi RS/BMW M etc, but great to drive.

[ITP]

Lexus ISF

[Jimjimhim]

I would say that the Alfa is your best bet, maybe followed by a 430i or 440i BMW Gran Coupe.

[AlexNJ89]

Jimjimhim said:

I would say that the Alfa is your best bet, maybe followed by a 430i or 440i BMW Gran Coupe.

From the list I'm thinking Alfa too. Although I reckon it has the most depreciation to go from the list too.

[Jimjimhim]

AlexNJ89 said:

Jimjimhim said:

I would say that the Alfa is your best bet, maybe followed by a 430i or 440i BMW Gran Coupe.

From the list I'm thinking Alfa too. Although I reckon it has the most depreciation to go from the list too.

I would reckon that the Jags will loose more than the Alfa

[Twistedheat02]

i had your exact same requirements. I got a Lexus ISF, love it!

[Twistedheat02]

Also, a 340i could be worth a look? I think they are late teens now pricewise

[AlexNJ89]

Twistedheat02 said:

i had your exact same requirements. I got a Lexus ISF, love it!

Oooh I might have to try one.

Wasn't there a revised suspension updated at some point and the later ones are better?

[Scootersp]

Ones with a blue bit on the steering wheel have a LSD.

[Scootersp]

Merc C63 of some type?

[ZX10R NIN]

Firstly I'm bias but they're cracking cars C63:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202406210...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404228...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202402146...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202407071...

BUT the 3.0 XF S is the sweet spot between newness/a good steer with a decent amount of power:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405019...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202407171...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404238...

Leftfield:

Maserati Ghibli S, not cheap (but nothing on my list is) but sensible enough & they're a good car:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202407181...

VXR8 good steer & a cracking V8:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202407191...

4.8T Panamera:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202406190...

4.8S:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202407262...

S6, not the sweetest steer but a very good daily:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405300...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202406281...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404138...



Q50h not the sharpest steer but quick:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202407262...

[swanseaboydan]

You may get an entry level macan for that - I think my first 2 litre petrol one was about 260 horses

[cerb4.5lee]

As said, the C63 will be difficult to resist in this situation I reckon.

I don't think that I'd ever get bored of the noise that the 6.2 V8 makes...the fuel bills on the other hand though!

[SFTWend]

Jimjimhim said:

AlexNJ89 said:

Jimjimhim said:

I would say that the Alfa is your best bet, maybe followed by a 430i or 440i BMW Gran Coupe.

From the list I'm thinking Alfa too. Although I reckon it has the most depreciation to go from the list too.

I would reckon that the Jags will loose more than the Alfa

I'd second that. Giulia and Stelvio appear to hold their value reasonably well.

[AlexNJ89]

SFTWend said:

I'd second that. Giulia and Stelvio appear to hold their value reasonably well.

Interesting.

I really like this Jag that was linked above
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405019...

There's something about those C63s that doesn't gel with me. I think it's because they're usually bought to make noise and do burnouts which puts me off.

[ZX10R NIN]

The Alfa's depreciate at a similar rate to the Jag's but the well spec'd ones just seem to command a bit more money, get in one, then jump in the Jag & I've found most go for the Jag as it's the nicer place to be. Then there's the 3.0 engine which is just a better unit.

The Alfa does look better though & you will get a newer car.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307179...

That XF looks like a good one but as always do your checks

[Jimjimhim]

AlexNJ89 said:

SFTWend said:

I'd second that. Giulia and Stelvio appear to hold their value reasonably well.

Interesting.

I really like this Jag that was linked above
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405019...

There's something about those C63s that doesn't gel with me. I think it's because they're usually bought to make noise and do burnouts which puts me off.

The C63 certainly has a bit of a dodgy following from what I've seen.

[Jimjimhim]

ZX10R NIN said:

The Alfa's depreciate at a similar rate to the Jag's but the well spec'd ones just seem to command a bit more money, get in one, then jump in the Jag & I've found most go for the Jag as it's the nicer place to be. Then there's the 3.0 engine which is just a better unit.

The Alfa does look better though & you will get a newer car.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307179...

That XF looks like a good one but as always do your checks

Compare an XE to a Giulia Veloce and the XE looks to be a fair bit cheaper? Jags also have a whiff of old man about them too.

[FamousPheasant]

I've had a few on that list.

Giulia gets the nod for outright fun. The quick steering rack makes it feel very nimble.

XFR are getting a little old now but represent great value for money. Engine is tremendous.

XEs is lovely, if a little cramped compared to the others.

435i/440i gran coupe not as fun as the others but a great all rounder. Hatchback boot is very useful.