Which Porsche to Buy?

[stickshift]

Hi All
I am looking to buy a Porsche as a longterm keeper. Should I snatch one of the last Cayman GTS 4.0's that has been offered by my local dealer or should I spend a bit more and buy a new 911, or even a used car.
Whatever I buy will be a daily driver so as much as the GT cars look great they are not really prctical for weekends away because my wife would moan like hell at the harsh ride and road noise, I know because I have a GR86 and I have to say that the road noise gets to me at times.

Thanks
Paul

[Nomme de Plum]

stickshift said:

Hi All
I am looking to buy a Porsche as a longterm keeper. Should I snatch one of the last Cayman GTS 4.0's that has been offered by my local dealer or should I spend a bit more and buy a new 911, or even a used car.
Whatever I buy will be a daily driver so as much as the GT cars look great they are not really prctical for weekends away because my wife would moan like hell at the harsh ride and road noise, I know because I have a GR86 and I have to say that the road noise gets to me at times.

Thanks
Paul

We were driving a 2024 911 4S . My GF got seriously fed up within a very few weeks. It simply is't a suitable daily driver for anyone other than a real enthusiast. She said the ride was too harsh and noise unacceptable. She even admitted that her love of the 911 had eroded. We replaced it with a Taycan. Happy GF.....

I'd suggest getting whatever you wish but as a fun car not a family daily.

[Ari]

stickshift said:

Hi All
I am looking to buy a Porsche as a longterm keeper. Should I snatch one of the last Cayman GTS 4.0's that has been offered by my local dealer or should I spend a bit more and buy a new 911, or even a used car.
Whatever I buy will be a daily driver so as much as the GT cars look great they are not really prctical for weekends away because my wife would moan like hell at the harsh ride and road noise, I know because I have a GR86 and I have to say that the road noise gets to me at times.

Thanks
Paul

I think I'd be inclined to test drive the ones I was most interested in and buy the one I liked the most.

[Dunbar871]

If you don’t need a back seat the GTS 4.0’s make a great daily driver although would prefer pdk if in traffic. Front and rear luggage space deceptively generous, fine for week away, incl golf clubs etc.

911s, Boxsters, Caymans all do suffer a bit of road noise, so check you are ok with that as can be wearing on a long drive. F types quieter and more GT like.

[Nomme de Plum]

Ari said:

stickshift said:

Hi All
I am looking to buy a Porsche as a longterm keeper. Should I snatch one of the last Cayman GTS 4.0's that has been offered by my local dealer or should I spend a bit more and buy a new 911, or even a used car.
Whatever I buy will be a daily driver so as much as the GT cars look great they are not really prctical for weekends away because my wife would moan like hell at the harsh ride and road noise, I know because I have a GR86 and I have to say that the road noise gets to me at times.

Thanks
Paul

I think I'd be inclined to test drive the ones I was most interested in and buy the one I liked the most.

Would you not give any regard to the preference of your GF/Parner/Wife if to be used as a daily?

Doesn't sound like a plan for a happy LTR?

[Nomme de Plum]

Dunbar871 said:

If you don’t need a back seat the GTS 4.0’s make a great daily driver although would prefer pdk if in traffic. Front and rear luggage space deceptively generous, fine for week away, incl golf clubs etc.

911s, Boxsters, Caymans all do suffer a bit of road noise, so check you are ok with that as can be wearing on a long drive. F types quieter and more GT like.

I much preferred the 911 to the Boxter GTS but still too harsh for SWMBO. Neither are remotely practicable as a daily driver long term especially if one wants to carry bikes, paddle boards, and the like.

Second car only use IMHO

[lancslad58]

stickshift said:

Hi All
I am looking to buy a Porsche as a longterm keeper. Should I snatch one of the last Cayman GTS 4.0's that has been offered by my local dealer or should I spend a bit more and buy a new 911, or even a used car.
Whatever I buy will be a daily driver so as much as the GT cars look great they are not really prctical for weekends away because my wife would moan like hell at the harsh ride and road noise, I know because I have a GR86 and I have to say that the road noise gets to me at times.

Thanks
Paul

What's your budget ?

[Dunbar871]

Nomme de Plum said:

Dunbar871 said:

If you don’t need a back seat the GTS 4.0’s make a great daily driver although would prefer pdk if in traffic. Front and rear luggage space deceptively generous, fine for week away, incl golf clubs etc.

911s, Boxsters, Caymans all do suffer a bit of road noise, so check you are ok with that as can be wearing on a long drive. F types quieter and more GT like.

I much preferred the 911 to the Boxter GTS but still too harsh for SWMBO. Neither are remotely practicable as a daily driver long term especially if one wants to carry bikes, paddle boards, and the like.

Second car only use IMHO

https://www.porsche.com/uk/accessoriesandservice/t...

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1194795-kayaks-on-...

911 has a bit more flexibility in terms of luggage ‘options’…

[stickshift]

I could spend up to £100k, but would prefer to stray in the £80k region, I forgot to sat that it must be a manual which excludes a lot of the competition. I was looking at really pushing teh bout out and ordering a new 911GTS but when I looked last week Porsche had withdran the manual because of the release of the new hybrid version, in fact a load of 911 have been taken off the configurator including the 911T which was snother consideration.

I will arrange a drive of the Cayman and it I think that I can live with it on long journeys I will go ahead. I had a 997 quite some time ago and the tyre noise on that was really wearling on trips of over 100 miles each way.

[bennno]

Nomme de Plum said:

We were driving a 2024 911 4S . My GF got seriously fed up within a very few weeks. It simply is't a suitable daily driver for anyone other than a real enthusiast. She said the ride was too harsh and noise unacceptable. She even admitted that her love of the 911 had eroded. We replaced it with a Taycan. Happy GF.....

I'd suggest getting whatever you wish but as a fun car not a family daily.

Swap the GF?

[Martin315]

bennno said:

Nomme de Plum said:

We were driving a 2024 911 4S . My GF got seriously fed up within a very few weeks. It simply is't a suitable daily driver for anyone other than a real enthusiast. She said the ride was too harsh and noise unacceptable. She even admitted that her love of the 911 had eroded. We replaced it with a Taycan. Happy GF.....

I'd suggest getting whatever you wish but as a fun car not a family daily.

Swap the GF?

Quite how a 2024 911 is not a daily driver is beyond me!

The fact he replaced with a Taycan suggest this is yet another eco loon thread

[Magnum 475]

Martin315 said:

Quite how a 2024 911 is not a daily driver is beyond me!

Indeed. I’ve used a 3.2 Carrera as a daily, a 996, and my 987S gets driven a lot in daily use during the summer months. I prefer the 987 to my “official daily” 3-series.

[ITP]

991 carrera T manual is 70-80k. Either that or a much newer 4.0 cayman GTS seem to be the options.

[Venisonpie]

In many ways a Cayman is a great daily (I had a 981 in lieu of a company car) and did 24000 miles in 10 months.

Lots of boot space, easy to drive although the clutch on the manual was heavier than ideal (mine was pdk but I tried both) and surprisingly frugal - iirc mine did 37mpg on a longer journey which was important as I was claiming the fuel costs from work.

As previously mentioned the tyre roar is bloody annoying and I sold it at 10mths old. The Boxsters seem a bit better but still not great.

[Wilmslowboy]

If you not already done so watch the Harry Metcalfe review on the 992, one of the few criticisms he had, was the road and wind noise.

11 minutes in

https://youtu.be/Jyy5h6bVndg?feature=shared

[Wills2]

stickshift said:

I could spend up to £100k, but would prefer to stray in the £80k region, I forgot to sat that it must be a manual which excludes a lot of the competition. I was looking at really pushing teh bout out and ordering a new 911GTS but when I looked last week Porsche had withdran the manual because of the release of the new hybrid version, in fact a load of 911 have been taken off the configurator including the 911T which was snother consideration.

I will arrange a drive of the Cayman and it I think that I can live with it on long journeys I will go ahead. I had a 997 quite some time ago and the tyre noise on that was really wearling on trips of over 100 miles each way.

If tyre roar bothered you on a 997 then it will bother you on the 992 and probably the 991 as well, I used to do 400 mile trips every week in my 997 it never bothered me, but if it's an issue for you things haven't improved and of course the current state of our worn out roads doesn't help.

[pb8g09]

Nomme de Plum said:

Would you not give any regard to the preference of your GF/Parner/Wife if to be used as a daily?

Doesn't sound like a plan for a happy LTR?

And I suppose you avoid eating any foods that give you wind as you don't want to upset her too with your farts?

Do you tell your partner what clothes she should and shouldn't buy based on your personal preference?

[stickshift]

No I don't tell my wife what clothes to buy and she doesn't tell me what I can and can't eat but a £100k investment in a car is a slightly different propersition because to get the best from it I need to use it for weekends away and that involves drives of up to 200 miles each way. This means that neither of us want to arrive at our destination depressed by the drone on tyre noise which was so annoying in my 997 C2S and is why I sold it. As I said I have a GR86 that I bought on a wim and although it is great fun the noise, especially on concrete roads and rought tarmac is awful and very often over 100 db.

[Wills2]

stickshift said:

No I don't tell my wife what clothes to buy and she doesn't tell me what I can and can't eat but a £100k investment in a car is a slightly different propersition because to get the best from it I need to use it for weekends away and that involves drives of up to 200 miles each way. This means that neither of us want to arrive at our destination depressed by the drone on tyre noise which was so annoying in my 997 C2S and is why I sold it. As I said I have a GR86 that I bought on a wim and although it is great fun the noise, especially on concrete roads and rought tarmac is awful and very often over 100 db.

100db is a chainsaw or a jackhammer so I doubt your GR86 is anywhere near 100db, but 911s are as loud as they ever were when it comes to tyres noise.

Harry Metcalfe does a DB test on his reviews and he's tested the 992 in most guises so look his channel up, the C2S is 80db at 60 mph as the decibel scale is not linear that's 100 times quieter than your GR86 at 100db, so maybe perfect for you after all.

[venster70]

I would go for a 911 if daily refinement is a concern.
I owned a Cayman and used it daily, it's not just road noise the engine is right behind your head and it was very tiring to live with as a daily driver.
I test drove a 991.2 Carrera and found that very refined, although the engine symphony is a bit subdued in the newer turbo cars.
The suspension is very good in all (non track focused) Porches the ride is not harsh.
Obviously test drive both :-)