A6 Estate vs V90

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robz

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39 posts

167 months

Thursday 18th July
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Debating over which car to get next, currently driving a 2015 diesel that's cost me more than i want to think about over the years.

I'm looking at two possible vehicles, one is a Volvo V90 Hybrid Petrol engine. The other is an Audi A6 Estate Diesel Hybrid Engine. I do about 16,000 miles a year

The Audi A6 is £32,000 , 60,000 miles (MY 2019) - 40-45mpg average
The Volvo V90 is £37,000 15,000 miles (MY 2023) - 38-42mpg

Both are similarly spec in terms of options.

A6 can split the rear seats 20/20/20 where the Volvo is 60/40
A6 is diesel, Volvo is Petrol. Both have MHEV 48v Motors which whilst they don't run the wheels, do aid the engine.
Both touchscreen for everything including climate, volvo even has touch for the sunroof (don't see the need when a button would have fit just fine!), both 360 cameras, premium audio, heads up display.
A6 can park itself, V90 can't (Don't think i'd use it anyway)
A6 uses android auto, V90 is "Android as an Operating System" so has moved away from Sensus.

Does the V90 make more sense being the newer car with reasonable MPG even though it's a petrol? I feel like it would be worth more in a few years too? Or would the A6 be the better car?

Dunbar871

218 posts

4 months

Thursday 18th July
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Go diesel for that mileage. Petrol mpg looks optimistic to me, in actual use I’d expect diesel to return 10mpg more over the petrol.

Mammasaid

4,166 posts

102 months

Thursday 18th July
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I'd agree re the mileage, if the V90 is the B5 variant, it'll not be too dissimilar to the T5 which I had in a V90CC. That did around 26mpg long term, but as I only did around 6k a year it wasn't an issue.

The Volvo is a calmer place to sit though!

biggbn

24,544 posts

225 months

Thursday 18th July
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Dunbar871 said:
Go diesel for that mileage. Petrol mpg looks optimistic to me, in actual use I’d expect diesel to return 10mpg more over the petrol.
Mpg for volvo reported on various long term tests suggest 40mpg is about right? If its the same version that is?

Master Bean

3,925 posts

125 months

Thursday 18th July
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So neither are actually a hybrid. Just marketing mild hybrid bks.

bennno

12,402 posts

274 months

Thursday 18th July
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I think the Volvo is nicer, there was a 22 plate D4 mild hybrid with about 25k miles go through BCA this morning with an estimated price of £22k.

The pre 69 plate Volvo's all have autonomous, after that / during covid some momentum models didnt get it - worth checking as its superb.

We did 40k in ours and it was faultless, still miss it.

Jonno02

2,249 posts

114 months

Thursday 18th July
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I've had both.

2019 A6 avant sport and a 2020 V90 T4 momentum plus.

A6 had a cheaper feeling cabin. Still a nice place to be, but it was quite clear the Volvo had much nicer materials. Never quite got on with the seats in the A6, felt like they'd put too much padding in the wrong places. I think mine was 250bhp vs 190bhp in the Volvo, so it did feel quicker.

The Volvo equipment was leagues ahead of the Audi; pilot assist, adaptive cruise, electric memory seats and little touches that I preferred like split boot loading for shopping etc. Obviously equipment is car dependent though.

I didn't take my A6 on enough motorway journeys to stretch its legs, but recently my V90 T4 managed 46.5mpg from Glasgow to Stoke on Trent, fully loaded with luggage and 4 people sitting at 70 the entire way, which I was thoroughly impressed with. Around town it's about 31-32mpg.

I don't think 16,000 miles a year is enough to go for diesel. Between the two examples you've listed, I'd go V90.

DoctorX

7,465 posts

172 months

Thursday 18th July
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My V60 is the 250 bhp petrol mild hybrid. It’ll do high thirties on a run, twenties around town. Lifetime average 35 mpg. MPG figures for the bigger, heavier V90 look optimistic, assuming it’s the same engine.

dhutch

14,899 posts

202 months

Thursday 18th July
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Dunbar871 said:
.... for that mileage...
Go with whichever is more comfortable to sit in! Proberbly the Volvo.

TooLateForAName

4,810 posts

189 months

Thursday 18th July
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Whats the journey profile? have you considered an EV?

ZX10R NIN

28,099 posts

130 months

Thursday 18th July
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robz said:
Debating over which car to get next, currently driving a 2015 diesel that's cost me more than i want to think about over the years.

I'm looking at two possible vehicles, one is a Volvo V90 Hybrid Petrol engine. The other is an Audi A6 Estate Diesel Hybrid Engine. I do about 16,000 miles a year

The Audi A6 is £32,000 , 60,000 miles (MY 2019) - 40-45mpg average
The Volvo V90 is £37,000 15,000 miles (MY 2023) - 38-42mpg

Both are similarly spec in terms of options.

A6 can split the rear seats 20/20/20 where the Volvo is 60/40
A6 is diesel, Volvo is Petrol. Both have MHEV 48v Motors which whilst they don't run the wheels, do aid the engine.
Both touchscreen for everything including climate, volvo even has touch for the sunroof (don't see the need when a button would have fit just fine!), both 360 cameras, premium audio, heads up display.
A6 can park itself, V90 can't (Don't think i'd use it anyway)
A6 uses android auto, V90 is "Android as an Operating System" so has moved away from Sensus.

Does the V90 make more sense being the newer car with reasonable MPG even though it's a petrol? I feel like it would be worth more in a few years too? Or would the A6 be the better car?
Both are good options BUT I'd be going for the E400d they're really a great drivetrain & you'll get a Premium Plus one for less money than the A6 but with lower miles:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202403278...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405310...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202309121...

If you go for the Audi get the S6 Avant it has the next best drivetrain to the E400d above:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202406060...

ingenieur

4,168 posts

186 months

Thursday 18th July
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biggbn said:
Dunbar871 said:
Go diesel for that mileage. Petrol mpg looks optimistic to me, in actual use I’d expect diesel to return 10mpg more over the petrol.
Mpg for volvo reported on various long term tests suggest 40mpg is about right? If its the same version that is?
Diesel is more expensive though. Diesel also only saves money when cruising. During the acceleration phase it is hosing diesel into the cylinders. So you would have to do a lot of motorway driving to justify the downsides of diesel.


ingenieur

4,168 posts

186 months

Thursday 18th July
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I would say generally speaking the better buy is going to be a Mercedes as they at least try to make their cars reliable. Volvo and Audi have absolutely no honour when it comes to making sure their cars will last past 100,000 miles. I know because I've done the repairs. If you want a car with failed gearbox and massive oil leaks go for a Volvo or an Audi. It is much of a muchness and all cars do go wrong but I like the attitude of Mercedes where they are at least trying to make a decent car.

Dunbar871

218 posts

4 months

Thursday 18th July
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Does make me wonder if some people just wake up drunk before posting utter bks into these threads.

bennno

12,402 posts

274 months

Thursday 18th July
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Op, new Skoda superb launched today, got 5* review from autocar, dsg diesel without hybrid, full autonomous mode standard

3k deposit contribution and 6,9% Apr

robz

Original Poster:

39 posts

167 months

Thursday 18th July
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Dunbar871 said:


Does make me wonder if some people just wake up drunk before posting utter bks into these threads.
What am i looking at there, Satisfaction surveys?

soupdragon1

4,425 posts

102 months

Thursday 18th July
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I personally think the Volvo is a better car. They don't make V90 for UK anymore so that might help residuals as there are plenty of Volvo estate lovers so late examples might hold value.

You'll spend a bit more on fuel though, and the luxury car tax will need paid for a bit yet. I would still by the Volvo but I don't think overall you'll save money Vs the Audi.

One last point. There will be no new model on the Volvo, ever again, so your car will always look the most up to date model, no matter how long you keep it. And it's a smart looking car IMO.

Edited by soupdragon1 on Thursday 18th July 23:19

blueg33

37,798 posts

229 months

Friday 19th July
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DoctorX said:
My V60 is the 250 bhp petrol mild hybrid. It’ll do high thirties on a run, twenties around town. Lifetime average 35 mpg. MPG figures for the bigger, heavier V90 look optimistic, assuming it’s the same engine.
We have same engine in v60 cc and get the same mpg as above.

I don’t like the Volvo engine much, the Volvo is not a car for spirited driving, no sport mode to sharpen throttle response.

blueg33

37,798 posts

229 months

Friday 19th July
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soupdragon1 said:
I personally think the Volvo is a better car. They don't make V90 for UK anymore so that might help residuals as there are plenty of Volvo estate lovers so late examples might hold value.

You'll spend a bit more on fuel though, and the luxury car tax will need paid for a bit yet. I would still by the Volvo but I don't think overall you'll save money Vs the Audi.

One last point. There will be no new model on the Volvo, ever again, so your car will always look the most up to date model, no matter how long you keep it. And it's a smart looking car IMO.

Edited by soupdragon1 on Thursday 18th July 23:19
They announced last month that they are bringing estate models back to the UK

Rough101

2,095 posts

80 months

Friday 19th July
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I’d personally go Volvo, but only after a test drive, as if you’re used to decent diesels, the engine might feel a but weak and put you off.

Far better overall drive though, especially if doing big miles and you have one with Pilot Assist.