Pick up or 4x4

[Shieldsy94]

Looking at purchasing a long termer. Wanting either a pickup or 4x4 for:

- Load Carrying - Got to rebuild my EK9, therefore transporting engine and other bits along with building materials/tip runs.
- Ability to tow - Thinking possibly MX for the kid when he is a bit older along with trailer etc.
- Ability to go off roading - As above but also camping etc.
- Generally lower depreciation than equivalent cars (I understand they cost more to buy initially).

I've drove latest gen Hilux for work and liked it. Not drove a Navara but they are also on my list as well (2019 onward). However, unsure if something such as a newish Shogun Sport would be better suited. My main concern is ULEZ (commercials effected at a younger age than passenger cars) and with these expanding in future, don't want to be caught out.

I like the idea of a pickup as I can, for want of a better term, care less about it. I'm planning on a house renovation in the next few years and loading of building materials etc in the pickup is better than with a 4x4, along with taking the kid on adventures, camping, mtb & mx trips away etc. I renovated my current house with a MK5 GTI and the interior was battered by the end and was a shame really.

This would be a long termer i.e. over 5 years is the plan. I basically don't want to be caught out and need to replace it when something comes along. It would be my daily, however WFH and pence per mile if I do travel so not really much of a concern.

Any ideas?

[Doofus]

Our local tip classes pickups as commercial, so you have to pay to use the tip.

[Shieldsy94]

Doofus said:

Our local tip classes pickups as commercial, so you have to pay to use the tip.

Our local requires a free annual permit for pickups. Understand this may change however. I ruled out vans for this reason, amongst others.

[braddo]

For me a big consideration would be how often and for how long the back seats are used. A pickup will never be as comfortable as a passenger car 4x4.

Clean air zones are only going to expand so I think a diesel any older than the very latest Euro6d (2021?) could get caught in the next 5 years (because Euro6 also emit way over the limits in the real world).

[Shieldsy94]

braddo said:

For me a big consideration would be how often and for how long the back seats are used. A pickup will never be as comfortable as a passenger car 4x4.

Clean air zones are only going to expand so I think a diesel any older than the very latest Euro6d (2021?) could get caught in the next 5 years (because Euro6 also emit way over the limits in the real world).

Rear seat, it'll likely only be my child so in the time I own it, he's likely going to be in his seat/booster. Anyone else going in the back would have to deal with it, but it's irregular if I transport more than 1x extra adult.

Reason for looking at 2019 onwards Navara was because with that facelift, it's Euro6d. Older one is Euro6. Can't find out if a Shogun Sport is 6d or 6.

[skeeterm5]

I have an older L200 and I have taken the rear seat out. It gives me additional dry storage for stuff that may be too small to chuck in the back.

[ZX10R NIN]

If you want a cheap ULEZ compliant 4x4 then look at the Infiniti range as they're ULEZ compliant BUT they don't have low range which may be an issue if you're going proper off roading.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202406130...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202407081...

[Roger Irrelevant]

Minor point really but it depends exactly what building materials you're talking about as to whether a pick-up will be better. If you're planning on shifting bulk bags of aggregate or pallets of bricks yourself then yeah a pick up is obviously better. But thanks to the load bay not being that long, and the presence of a bulkhead, they're not as good for sheet materials, lengths of timber, pipe etc. During the course of my house renovation I've had bulk heavy stuff delivered by the merchant's nice big lorry anyway, and have found my estate preferable to a pick up as I can get sheets of plasterboard, 3m lengths of timber/pipe in it easily, plus a fair few hollow blocks etc if I've needed extra.