How to deal with old car with new (lease) car coming soon...

How to deal with old car with new (lease) car coming soon...

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SPD14

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412 posts

161 months

Friday 5th July
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Hi all - I haven't had to sell a car for 10+ years as i've been leasing, so i'm out of touch with what to do and looking for some help please.

My 'owned' car is currently for sale on AT and eBay. My new 'lease' car is being delivered next friday. If my owned car hasn't sold by then, how do I deal with the tax/insurance/AA etc on it? I won't be using my current car once the lease arrives. My lease is through work so comes with its own insurance/breakdown etc.

I'm just a bit befuddled by it TBH and could do with a steer on how to deal with it.

Do I SORN my car? do I cancel the AA/insurance? Help headache

chrisch77

670 posts

80 months

Friday 5th July
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SPD14 said:
Hi all - I haven't had to sell a car for 10+ years as i've been leasing, so i'm out of touch with what to do and looking for some help please.

My 'owned' car is currently for sale on AT and eBay. My new 'lease' car is being delivered next friday. If my owned car hasn't sold by then, how do I deal with the tax/insurance/AA etc on it? I won't be using my current car once the lease arrives. My lease is through work so comes with its own insurance/breakdown etc.

I'm just a bit befuddled by it TBH and could do with a steer on how to deal with it.

Do I SORN my car? do I cancel the AA/insurance? Help headache
Why do anything? If you aren't transferring insurance over to the new car that doesn't come into the equation, and not having it insured or taxed will make it impossible to sell it as you won't be able to do any test drives/rides. Your best bet is to come up with a strategy to shift the car on before the new one arrives, so reduce the price or prepare for WBAC or similar as you get close to the deadline.

Cloudy147

2,802 posts

188 months

Friday 5th July
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When I do similar (buy another car without selling the old one first), I keep them both taxed and insured.

If your lease car is to be insured with your current insurer as well (i.e. insurance cover isn’t included in your lease), then you can ask your current insurer to put your old car on temporary cover along with your new car so they are essentially covering both cars under the same policy.

smokey mow

1,054 posts

205 months

Friday 5th July
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If you want to sell it privately then keep it taxed and insured so that potential buyers can test drive it, else many will be put off.

Or if it’s not selling on AT then cancel everything and sell it to WBAC so you don’t have the hassle once the new car arrives.

SkodaIan

757 posts

90 months

Friday 5th July
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Assuming the old car is something which should sell relatively quickly, the simple answer in this case is do absolutely nothing. As the new car isn't your responsibility to insure, tax etc there's not even the need to pay and arrange for both to be insured in the short term.

If you SORN the car, it becomes much harder to sell as nobody can then test drive it (or you demo it to them working on the road)

You could get rid of the breakdown cover to save a few pounds if you want, but check out who provides the breakdown cover for the company fleet first - some of them provide very limited cover and you might want to supplement with your own policy, particularly if you have young children.

Alternative is to sell the old car to one of the various car buying companies who will take the car away tomorrow and turn it into cash. You will get a bit less for it, but save on quite a bit of hassle if it's a fairly ordinary common car like a Focus. If the car is in decent condition, it can also be worth asking any local secondhand dealers direct if they are looking for stock, as they will sometimes buy direct from the public to save on auction fees.

DonkeyApple

57,655 posts

174 months

Friday 5th July
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SPD14 said:
Hi all - I haven't had to sell a car for 10+ years as i've been leasing, so i'm out of touch with what to do and looking for some help please.

My 'owned' car is currently for sale on AT and eBay. My new 'lease' car is being delivered next friday. If my owned car hasn't sold by then, how do I deal with the tax/insurance/AA etc on it? I won't be using my current car once the lease arrives. My lease is through work so comes with its own insurance/breakdown etc.

I'm just a bit befuddled by it TBH and could do with a steer on how to deal with it.

Do I SORN my car? do I cancel the AA/insurance? Help headache
Keep it all as is. But you probably want to do the sums on what the genuine sale price might be for a private sale and how long that will take versus the price on offer from WBAC and the like? The spread might be enormous or it could be so small that just getting shot is the smarter call.

Baldchap

8,192 posts

97 months

Friday 5th July
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I offer to trade then offer at the trade value to family and friends. I sell a car either way and if anyone wants a spectacularly well maintained, low mileage motor for trade prices they're welcome to it.

Everyone's a winner, baby!

66HFM

415 posts

30 months

Friday 5th July
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What's the car, how old is it and what's the mileage on it?
You may also gets some views as to what's it s worth.

Good luck.

SPD14

Original Poster:

412 posts

161 months

Friday 5th July
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66HFM said:
What's the car, how old is it and what's the mileage on it?
You may also gets some views as to what's it s worth.

Good luck.
It's a 2009 Audi S5 V8, so pretty specialist to the point where WBAC etc won't offer anywhere near what it's worth, otherwise i'd probably go with them.

I guess i'll just stick with it as-is and hope it's sold ASAP.

Thanks everyone for the input.

DonkeyApple

57,655 posts

174 months

Friday 5th July
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SPD14 said:
It's a 2009 Audi S5 V8, so pretty specialist to the point where WBAC etc won't offer anywhere near what it's worth, otherwise i'd probably go with them.

I guess i'll just stick with it as-is and hope it's sold ASAP.

Thanks everyone for the input.
Keep it. Stick it on a classic car policy. Handy weekend toy during a future life of fleet cars and EVs. biggrin


Jayho

2,106 posts

175 months

Friday 5th July
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I tend to find WBAC are some of the lowest prices you get. Pretty much all others I've put in the past have been at least double what WBAC had offered.

Are there any performance orientated car dealerships near you? Might be worth popping by and seeing if they want your car as stock? Would be less than what you're wanting from private sale, but could be a lot less hassle

SPD14

Original Poster:

412 posts

161 months

Friday 5th July
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DonkeyApple said:
Keep it. Stick it on a classic car policy. Handy weekend toy during a future life of fleet cars and EVs. biggrin
Believe me, i'd love to, but i've got no room and can't afford to pay for it storing elsewhere frown

Martyn76

694 posts

122 months

Friday 5th July
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Jayho said:
I tend to find WBAC are some of the lowest prices you get. Pretty much all others I've put in the past have been at least double what WBAC had offered.

Are there any performance orientated car dealerships near you? Might be worth popping by and seeing if they want your car as stock? Would be less than what you're wanting from private sale, but could be a lot less hassle
Something like Motorway where individual dealers bid for the car rather than a faceless computer and the car ends up at auction?

JagYouAre

456 posts

175 months

Friday 5th July
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I bought a new car fairly recently and was in the process of selling the old one. When I called the insurer to add the new car, what they did was remove the old car from the policy and add it back on a temporary basis (for, I think, 30 days) during which if it sold the insurance would automatically end, and would end in any case after 30 days (I didn't have to tell them either way). They said if I needed it longer to let them know and they'd add it for further 30 day periods. In the end there was less than a week overlap.

Somehow ended up getting a refund of about £40 quid on the premium, even though the new car was more than quadruple the value.

As for AA, all my AA memberships in the past have covered the driver, not the car, so maybe check that and if it's the car, change to a policy that covers the driver in any car.

Tax these days you get a pro rata refund for any (full) months you don't use, so theoretically there shouldn't be too much cross over.